Norton 2011 released (early releases only - see new thread)

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  1. 3GUSER

    3GUSER Registered Member

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    Re: Norton 2011 released

    SEP needs urgent integration of Insight protection because it is nothing so special when it comes to detection (unlikely Norton). While I find it easy to install , manage and deploy , it lacks good proactive protection against unknown threats. I think the reason is Symantec is very scared of FPs especially in corporate networks/big clients.
     
    3GUSER, Sep 4, 2010
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  2. crofttk

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    ITA. SEP is purposely conservative - their targeted users can't afford any panics or spend any time here at Wilders:D . Home users need NIS more, well... "proactive" is the best word I think.
     
    crofttk, Sep 4, 2010
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  4. 3x0gR13N

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    Re: Norton 2011 released

    It displays a custom html in the browser, similarly to Eset, Norton or some others...

    Also, is Download insight now browser independent or?
     
    3x0gR13N, Sep 4, 2010
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  5. 3GUSER

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    I don't think this link has something to do with your problem earlier in this thread. The bug is related to Insight not always showing information for GOOD files . Nobody has posted that it doesn't always show information for BAD files . I also haven't noticed that and have pushed hundreds of mal files against Norton.

    There are other bugs , most related to the Cloud - some are described in Norton Community , some are not...
     
    3GUSER, Sep 5, 2010
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  6. begemot64

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    I have internal confirmation of the bug.

    It affects slower connections, that are being loaded - so if you have slow internet, and are heavily downloading something while launching a sample, download insight information in certain circumstances is not retrieved properly. I am told this will be fixed very shortly.
     
    begemot64, Sep 5, 2010
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  7. drakester

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    Good to know, thanks for the info. :)
    I'm glad to see that the issue was acknowledged and there will be a fix soon.
     
    drakester, Sep 5, 2010
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  8. King Grub

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    Re: Norton 2011 released

    Seems like there is some kind of issue with handles not being released properbly with NIS 2011, too. 3000+ and rising a few hours after boot. Confirmed by other users on the Norton forum.
     
    King Grub, Sep 5, 2010
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  9. Victek

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    How is this determined and what problem does it create? One thing I notice about NIS 2011 on one of my computers is every so often it causes intense disk activity. This happens while I'll working so it's not associated with idle-time scanning. I hope this is fixed soon.
     
    Victek, Sep 5, 2010
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  10. clocks

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    Re: Norton 2011 released

    Have you reported the problem to Norton?
     
    clocks, Sep 5, 2010
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  11. King Grub

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    Re: Norton 2011 released

    Just open the task manager and make it sure it shows handles.

    Handle leak:

    -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handle_leak-
     
    King Grub, Sep 5, 2010
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  12. pabrate

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    Re: Norton 2011 released

    And how many handles are other suites using ?
    Approx.
     
    pabrate, Sep 5, 2010
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    My KIS (avp.exe) has currently about 2100 handles. And I'd expect Norton to have less when operating normally.
     
    Rampastein, Sep 5, 2010
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  14. King Grub

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    Yeah, and the main problem is that it increases. 2000 at boot increases by 1000 after a few hours of doing nothing special. Handles should be released properly, and it doesn't look like NIS is doing that.
     
    King Grub, Sep 5, 2010
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  15. 3GUSER

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    I encountered the same bug but I neither download anything (e.g. use torrent client) nor my connection is slow.
     
    3GUSER, Sep 5, 2010
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  16. 3GUSER

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    Could you post a link to the thread from NC , thanks :) :thumb:
     
    3GUSER, Sep 5, 2010
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  17. drakester

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    I think this is the thread:
    -http://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-Internet-Security-Norton/NIS-2011-ccSvcHst-exe-32-Handles-seems-awfully-High/td-p/283470-
     
    drakester, Sep 5, 2010
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  18. pabrate

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    Re: Norton 2011 released

    btw even if it gets 5000 , what are the problems someone can experience ?
    How's that an issue ?

    Mine is at 2700 after 48hrs+ after last reboot.
    I've noticed that one of the svchost.exe are at 2100 , wmplayer when running (mp3) is using about 1800 ..

    But then again, I don't know much about handles , so ... if everything is running smooth and without problems AFAIC it can use 10k handles, don't really care.
     
    pabrate, Sep 5, 2010
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  19. TomiRed

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    Re: Norton 2011 released

    Yes, it seems it supports all four major browsers now (when it works) :D
     
    TomiRed, Sep 6, 2010
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  20. TomiRed

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    This handle thing is humbug, ccSvcHst (the system service instance) stays around 3000 handles, and with all the hooks it has to keep, it's no wonder. It adds a hundred, but then releases a hundred, therefore it's not really a leak 'cause the number would keep climbing if it was, wouldn't it?

    + has anyone seen any sypmtoms of performance trouble because of this? :D C'mon!
     
    TomiRed, Sep 6, 2010
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  21. njespo

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    Re: Norton 2011 released

    mine is at 3200 handles for most of the day....i haven't noticed any performance related issues but i am no expert so is this really something to be concerned about?
     
    njespo, Sep 6, 2010
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  22. drakester

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    At this amount, nope, not really.
    I'd be more concerned about the bug with insight.
     
    drakester, Sep 6, 2010
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  23. qakbot

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    Re: Norton 2011 released

    Same here 3200 handles. Its not leaking, just has a lot of functionality hence a lot of kernel objects. Process Explorer will show you the details of the handles.
     
    qakbot, Sep 7, 2010
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  24. Nevis

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    Re: Norton 2011 released

    hope to see this fix soon

    though my net is fast nut it could also happen while heavy downloading
     
    Nevis, Sep 7, 2010
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