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Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by JerryM, Sep 11, 2012.

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  1. fax

    fax Registered Member

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    The reality of the situation is that you ignore how WSA works and ignore explanations given to you. The disservice is unfortunately you just keep trolling in here. It should be clear by now what your intentions are, certanly not about understanding the software but keep venting the same sure that, by repetiting it "ad nauseam", your arguments will be more convincing . Thats not actually the case ;)

    We all understood that you do not like how WSA perform in detection tests regardless of explanations given and we are all fine with that. Good, but now, ins't it time to put an end to this useless discussion as long as 7 pages? Sadly there is no way you follow what has been said to you.

    Thanks!
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  2. Techfox1976

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    Some people understand causality and explanations. Others get stuck on the bird on the roof despite the anti-roof-bird technology and ignore the fact that the birds are dead and were thrown on the roof.

    Some people jump up and down and point at tests as if the tests are the be all and end all, and completely avoid any logic or intelligence that they could otherwise display. If the tests were all accurate, then they would all have about the same results (which has been pointed out already). Yet different tests at the same time show wildly different results.

    Furthermore, explain this oddity, since it goes against everything your test-pointing claims:
    On other AV (Avast, AVG, Norton, ESET, and others), my parents have successfully, an average of around seven times per year (more on Avast), acquired malware that was not detected by anything on VT, nor the local AV program, nor by MBAM or CF. Removed by hand each time. Keep in mind the AV programs worked, since they did catch a few hundred things during each of their life spans.

    Since installing WSA a year ago, they have called me one time to say "I think we got infected again", but by the time I got home from work and checked, WSA had already removed the malware completely. Plus it blocks stuff on a weekly basis and I have not had to remove any FPs from quarantine.

    While I love my parents dearly, their propensity toward clicking things is high. So while other people might say "I haven't gotten infected since I got WSA!", but they haven't been exposed. By comparison, my parents have a multi-year history of exposure and failure and infection that bypasses stuff and requires manual removal. Since setting them up on WSA, there is ongoing evidence of just as much, if not more exposure to infection as the prior years, however none have successfully taken root and stayed active on the machine. I haven't had to remove a single thing from their machines all year, and trust me, because I know them well, I've checked very thoroughly very often.

    You may say "sheep" or that we are blinded by PR, but you know what? You're the one looking at virtual tests that you have no input or full insight into or even understanding of and basing your decision of those. We're basing our decision off reality and experience. Sounds more like you're the one blinded by the testing PR and following the theoretical results of a virtual and fake scenario like a sheep.

    But hey, if the results of a test don't match reality, then reality must be wrong, right? That's how science and logic works these days. ;)
     
  3. fax

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    Now I finally found a scientific explanation for this!!

    The secret key is hidden in the nickname. We are not talking to a human but to a silicon based system (computer) that is only programmed to say NO.

    Sorry, I could not resist to this silly joke.. no offense intended, just trying to soften the drama around WSA :D :D

    I guess I will now receive a 'fax' to go to h.... :argh:
     
  4. Baldrick

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    Why don't you just grow up? If you are not happy with WSA then don't use it. I think that members at WIlders (generally) are savvy enough to understand what is posted and make the decision that suits them.

    This thread is going nowhere fast...so I am bugging out and focussing on more useful discussions.
     
  5. Triple Helix

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    For being a Noobie to Wilders you sure try very hard to dismiss the Wisdom of your fellow members and the lack of respect to them is beyond words. :blink: Notice I didn't say anything about WSA!

    TH
     
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  7. You have the nerve... Explain why it gets such bad results in detection tests instead attacking me.
     
  8. ReverseGear

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    Why is this thread still on ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  9. SweX

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    :blink:

    Read........
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=2117278&postcount=107
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=2117927&postcount=120
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=2117947&postcount=125

    I think you missed to read these before so HTH :thumb:

    And I did already post this video of the Rollback function for you on the last page ;)
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=2117951&postcount=126
     
  10. Cloud

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    He stated your apparent position in this thread, that is all. Please do stop trolling/flamebaiting. You aren't setting a positive example for the few young visitors that read through these threads.
     
  11. LOL what a load of crap. Positive example? WTF are you on about.

    A video made by Webroot vs a independent video. i wonder...
     
  12. fax

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    Can we stop this junk? Where are the MODs? Just keep posting the same. It has already been discussed... Stop trolling! :(
     
  13. SweX

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    You should stop wondering and start reading the facts......

    It doesn't matter how much you want WSA to detect the threats that hide inside a folder, it won't happen unless they are executed. End of story over and out :thumb:

    Edit: I should clarify that the detection rate should increase if the threats were executed instead of just scanning the folder. So that no one thinks that WSA would score zero if they wasn't executed.
     
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  14. And you keep posting the same excuses, over & over again. Now your having a sook for a moderater to close down a really important discussion. I've posted legitimately questions about Webroot all along.

    Sorry, but here is a independent test of how well Webroot does when files are executed. It does very poorly. And YES I do understand how Webroot works, not very well I'd say.

    http://malwaretips.com/Thread-Webroot-SecureAnywhere-Antivirus-2012-Rollback-Feature-Test-biozfear14

    So what good is it's protection now? But that's right only valid tests are where Webroot does well please we are not that stupid. There is a place for independant testing in this world, no AV company likes it because it shows how badly they do.

    Don't worry i'm not anti Webroot as I stated, heck I even own a license, But when a product is not up to snuff the community deserves to know about it. Attack me all you want, in the end people will decide for themselves based on what they see.
     
  15. PrevxHelp

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  16. That's the spirit, acknowledge that your working on the issues.
     
  17. Dragon1952

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    PCMAG.COM loves WSA so isn't that all we need to know..lol
     
  18. ahahaha lol
     
  19. fax

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    But did you take the time to actually review the video? WSA killed the Fake AV and what was left at the end was just a couple of dead entries.
    ROLLBACK did work! What is your point now? WSA is junk because a dead shortcut was left on desktop? For god sake stop taking us as a bunch of idiots.

    Fax
     

  20. I think people are quite smart actually, when something smells they will find out in the end.

    If you cannot fathom that detection plays an important role in AV software then you make yourself look like a idiot. When your philosophy is utter nonsense people will find out that it's just marketing hype.

    When you score 30% & 50% in tests the detection honestly just stinks. If it can't detect a malicious file or piece of code then it will run on the system regardless on whether you have a so called magic rollback feature that actually doesn't work because it can't rollback the changes.

    How long do you have to wait for updated database? 4 hours? 8 hours? 5 years "We have had flame samples since 2007" LOL.
     
  21. fax

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    You said:
    You had not clue on rollback results from the video (with the rollback actually working)... and now you are back to the broken record of detection.

    Stop spamming ... you provide no value added to the discussion aside from keep posting the same and when you just changed subject (e.g. rollback) you have no idea on what you were talking about :D The worst is that you keep insisting altough you know you are basically talking junk.

    This is getting hilarious :thumb: :thumb:
     
  22. kdcdq

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    ComputerSays,

    It really IS simple: many of us are running WSA and our systems are 100% malware-free. All five of my WSA systems are. :thumb:

    Do we look at the tests results when they come out: Yes.
    Do we wish those results were better: Yes.
    Is Webroot working to improve WSA: Yes.

    This week I disinfected two more machines running Norton.
    This is how many systems I have disinfected running WSA: 0.

    Arguing and personal attacks are getting you nowhere. Why don't you just quit posting your crap so the rest of us can help Wilders members who actually want us to help them. :isay:
     
  23. Blackcat

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    At least put this thread where it should be; over in the Prevx Support forum.
     
  24. volvic

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    what's all the fuss about?
     
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