Windows 10 Privacy

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by Fox Mulder, Jul 10, 2015.

  1. imdb

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    see here , here and here
     
  2. Kerodo

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    Ok, thanks. It seems as though it shouldn't be a problem then. I probably just encountered a glitch. I might try again this weekend..
     
  3. Kerodo

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    Just did a restore of my Win 7 image and this time all went well, it just took about 45 minutes for it to do it's first updates check after not doing anything for several months. That happened when I first installed it also. After that initial long check, then everything is back to normal. No idea why it takes so long though.. Anyway, I'm going with 7, something that I feel more comfortable with. In time, I'm sure more will be uncovered/revealed regarding Win 10's privacy issues. We shall see....
     
  4. Amanda

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    One of the main annoyances of Windows is the update time. I have an original DVD from 2010, and everytime I install it fresh it takes literaly 8 to 10 hours to update hehehehe. Not only this, but the timeframe between updates, once every month.

    On the other hand, Microsoft is pretty good at backwards compatibility. I wouldn't doubt that a program written for Windows 3.0 will work on Windows 10.
     
  5. mirimir

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    Just don't expect any privacy when you game :)

    Run Windows 10 on your gaming box, but don't do anything that you want kept private. Do all of your private stuff on another box, isolated from the Windows box on a separate LAN (or at least, on a separate vLAN). That private box might just be your old gaming box, thoroughly wiped (or with a new SSD) and running Linux or *BSD.
     
  6. Infected

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    That's a little far fetched..
     
  7. Amanda

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    Yes you can. Ovciously not every AAA game out there, but we're getting there. We now have more games than XBOX One and PS4, combined.

    Next Crysis game will copefully come to Linux since Crytek ported their CryEngine.
    CODEMASTERS will port some games too, as they've said. Hopefully they'll make the next F1 MultiPlatform, I think by then SteamBox'es will be on sale for several months.

    VALVe should make a Half-Life 3 that is Linux-only, for a few months :p Then release to everyone else hehehehe.
     
  8. mirimir

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    Why is that far fetched?

    In my world, it's normal. Computers last many years. Within ten feet of me here, there are five towers, two rack-mount servers, a notebook and a netbook. They date from 2008 to 2014. The newer ones have SSDs, so they don't use much power.
     
  9. Amanda

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    Not that HDD's use a lot of power :p Like what, 15W? hehehehe
     
  10. mirimir

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    My VBox hosts tend to have 4-6 disks in Linux software RAID10.

    Also, I'm off-grid, and rely on PV with propane backup. So every Watt counts :eek:
     
  11. RejZoR

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    Disclosing keylogging of ALL user input doesn't make it all right just because it was disclosed. If that was for one random program, then fine. There are billions of alternatives and you can just decide not to use it. But Windows is an OS and frankly, it's the ONLY one. There are no alternatives. You can't decide not to use it. If you're a gamer, you're forced to use Windows 10 if you want DirectX 12 support. In fact, if you're a gamer, you're forced to use Windows by default. Sure there are games for Linux and it's improving, but that's just a spit in the ocean. Linux is just too fiddly and annoyingly over-complicated with all it's idiocy to be useful on any level.

    So, Microsoft being such ~Snip~ to do all this data mining, it is a problem and a big one. Even if we trust Microsoft to handle the mined data correctly, can you trust others not to hack Microsoft? There is NO need to gather this much personal data. It's ridiculous. There should be NO amount of disclosure and agreements that would allow it. Essentially we are handing over sensitive data and assuming nothing will ever go wrong. Well, if we aren't handing over any data, then we can be sure it won't be abused. So, Microsoft gathering personal data that is none of their business is a very bad business practice from the get go. They shouldn't be doing it and I truly hope some security firm will reveal what the hell they are gathering and that regulators will force them to stop doing it regardless of what they wrote in the disclosures and agreements.
     
  12. J_L

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    I beg to differ about Windows being the only OS w/o alternatives, especially as if hardcore PC gamers represent all demographics.

    And where did you get this claim of keylogging ALL user input as if every letter you type is data mined?
     
  13. imdb

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    glad you got it sorted out.
     
  14. RejZoR

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    When you install Windows it says there it will log EVERYTHING you type. And even if you turn that off, supposedly Windows still logs everything.
     
  15. Infected

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    Any proof of that happening? Or just hearsay? Links to this claim?
     
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    Of course I could be naive but hasn't Microsoft been collecting most of this data with older OSs anyway? Could it be that they are actually being more upfront than they have been in the past about data collection?

    ... Just a thought.
     
  17. Infected

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    This has nothing to do with the privacy, hide everything from W10 that you posted before.
     
  18. Kerodo

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    This was my thought also... we may trust MS not to do anything devious, but what's to prevent hackers from accessing all this data off their servers or whatever? It just isn't good policy to have all this going on. I hope someone studies it all too, and can enlighten us as to just how much of what is really going on. Until then, I stick with 7. I tried 10 (insider previews and upgrade also), but I just can't shake the uncomfortable feeling I get when I'm running it..
     
  19. Kerodo

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    Yep, thanks....
     
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    Read thru this: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx

    Much of it is deliberately vague and possibly even misleading. For example:

    "However, we do not use what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, photos or other personal files to target ads to you."

    That says they don't use what you do and say in those things for ads, however, it does imply that they do collect it, and they don't tell you what else they might be using it for.. :)
     
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    I agree, I won't be upgrading either, until I buy a new machine in about 5 years or so. There's absolutely nothing interesting when it comes to features in Win 10. On top of that they have made the privacy invasion even worse.

    Well, I wouldn't be surprised if eventually this stuff will end up on TV shows, to make the general public aware of this. Companies really shouldn't be violating privacy like this.
     
  22. Joxx

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    Speak for yourself!
    What's wrong with you people? Didn't the Assange affair taught you something?
    This is a global operation, Windows 10 is just one (big) eye, and they count with our complacency, they want us to reason "I do nothing wrong why should I be afraid?"
    Be afraid, be very afraid.
     
  23. Kerodo

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    Haha... Wow, a genuine alarmist! Lol..

    I didn't say I *did* trust them. ;)
     
  24. Minimalist

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    I upgraded Windows 7 to Windows 10 on my netbook just to test it out. My original plan was to deploy it on my desktop when most problems are addressed and it becomes stable. Now, privacy concerns are the ones that makes me hesitate to upgrade. It seems that more and more tasks, services and features have to be disabled in every new version released. Since new features could be released each patch Tuesday, I would have to check out if something new was installed or something that I disabled got enabled after each update. I don't like this idea.
     
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