Windows 10 Announced - Released 29-Jul-2015

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by ronjor, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. Kerodo

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    Yep, I think it'll work for me long term. Linux is pretty nice these days... :)
     
  2. roger_m

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    @MisterB Yes, it installs and runs on build 1511, if you make a copy of the setup exe file, and set it Windows 7 compatibility. Doing so will stop Windows 10 from blocking the installer, and will also stop the installer refusing to do the install due to it seeing Windows 10 as an incompatible OS.

    I haven't tried the throttling, so I can't say if it works or not.

    It's interesting to se you are still using Vista. I quite like Vista myself, and on the whole it worked well for me.
     
  3. MisterB

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    I have Vista in this machine because it originally ran Xp and all the software migrated to Vista with no issues. Windows 7, for some strange reason, had more memory/pagefile issues than Vista on this particular laptop so I kept Vista on it. It can still boot to Xp if I need to. I have Linux Mint on it as well which I'm trying to migrate to as its main OS but that is hung up on a printer driver not working right now so I have to boot to Xp or Vista to print which is a big part of what I use it for. Vista has a great driver for my printer plus good backwards compatibility with Xp. If I hadn't started with Xp on this laptop, Vista would be a lot less attractive.
     
  4. Victek

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    Any idea if this will run in Virtual Box?

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/2015s-best-linux-desktop-mint-17-2/
     
  5. Kerodo

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    I put the disk with 1511 on it in again and tried this. It didn't work. I can get by the first check but the installer stops with an incompatibility message. This is what happened when I disabled application compatibility in group policy and disabled the program compatibility service. Way too much trouble to pursue further. I did succeed in editing the Windows 10 BCD so it could boot Qubes which I installed on another partition of this disk. Qubes didn't like it and did an integrity check that took one reboot and a long fsck at shutdown before it would boot normally. This is amusing. I now have a dual boot disk that holds two OSes at the opposite extremes of the spectrum. One abuses privacy and the other is all about privacy.
     
  7. roger_m

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    @MisterB You need to set "Setup - Copy.exe" to run in Windows 7 compatability mode, not Setup.exe.
     
  8. Victek

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    That is what I did. It gets me to the second warning.
     
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  11. Victek

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    Personally I wouldn't bother with it if Edge is the only issue, but if you want to fix it I would try a "Reset"; go to Settings/Update & Security/Recovery/ Reset this PC
     
  12. CoolWebSearch

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    I won't touch Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, yes it is the only issue I have, I only truly hope that Microsoft will fully fix this Microsoft Edge thing/bug, eventually. Besides what's the point of resetting my Windows 10 Pro 64-bit from scratch when I update it/upgrade it, it will again be stuck with Microsoft Edge not opening, so that's why it is absolutely 100% useless to reset the entire Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, all that work would be for nothing, absolutely nothing.
     
  13. anon

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    If the workaround not worked, search for another one.

    The problem is that MicrosoftEdge.exe cannot be run like other programs (the MicrosoftEdge.exe can not be run by double clicking and creating a normal shortcut)
    If you do not have the Microsoft Edge shortcut you have to create a new one.

    I take it that folder: Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_8wekyb3d8bbwe exists in your PC.
    (C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_8wekyb3d8bbwe).
    Above folder contains all the necessary files?
    In my PC, the folder contains 5 subfolders and 57 files.
    (OS: Windows 10 Pro x64, Version 1511 - Build 10586.36)
     
  14. Victek

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    A Reset is not the same as a clean install. All of the data and third party applications are untouched. The only thing that might be necessary is reinstalling some updates, but I'm not sure. It's a fairly quick process and, in my limited experience, it does fix problems.

    Edit: Note that my statement about third party applications being untouched when doing a reset is incorrect. However there is an option to save personal files.
     
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  15. CoolWebSearch

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    4 subfolders and 57 files, and no, I'm not ready to reset my PC because I truly don't know what to expect, should I configure everything from scratch, and what about Microsoft Office 2013 that I have on my computer I just don't want to reinstall Microsoft Office 2013 again, I just don't have time for this, I'm preparing myself for some major exames, and my computer is the last thing on my mind-it's not worth just because of one web-browser to go through hell with resetting PC-no thank you.
    And if I do everything again again, Microsoft Edge would not again open, because it did n't want to open only after I have upgraded to 1511, build 10586.
    Plus how much time does it take to reset PC, 1 hour 2 hours, that's too much time for me, I just don't that much time, basically I'd happy if some upgrade from Microsoft will solve this minor issue with Microsoft Edge.

    Also, will C: partition and D: partition be saved when you reset PC?
     
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  16. Kerodo

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    Sounds good! :)
     
  17. Victek

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    Here is a tutorial about how to do a Windows 10 reset. Note that my statement about third party applications being preserved is incorrect. However it is correct that personal files can optionally be preserved.

    http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4090-refresh-windows-10-a.html

    I understand that you don't want to deal with. I'm only suggesting that it may be a way to fix the problem with Edge. Obviously it's a lot easier to use a different browser which is what I would do under the circumstances.
     
  18. CoolWebSearch

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    OK, but do I really need to create my partitions again? It's a pain of a job, and time is the luxury I simply don't have-and btw who says that this will fix Microsoft Edge in the first place?

    Based on the recent experience, nothing will change at all, since Windows 10's previous version had Microsoft Edge working and opening and surfing the net normally, and exactly after the Windows 10 upgrade, Microsoft Edge simply stopped to work, it can't even open anymore-so resetting the PC will not change anything at all, because it will not be able to open,I like it or not-what's the point of going back from ground zero again if again, Microsoft Edge cannot and will not even open, no matter how many times I try to reset PC and start over again and again, and Microsoft Edge will again and again not open in the first place?

    Just for the record, 2 hours before Windows 10 64-bit was upgraded, I was surfing the net with Microsoft Edge-it was all ok, just after that upgrade Microsoft Edge was stuck in the opening it couldn't open in the end-so no sorry, this reset this PC will solve this problem, because the problems started just after the upgrade, there were zero problems before the upgrade.

    Since I also have MBAE, MBAE always noted me that Microsoft Edge and add-ons are protected, but not from this morning:
    I just opened my Windows 10 and I have created a shortcut on desktop for Microsoft Edge, here is what it says now, if I do just by coping MicrosoftEdge.exe on the desktop, it says this:

    "The application was unable to start correctly 0xc0000018.
    Click OK to close the application."

    If I go by Anon's way the way he showed me how to create shortcut, I got this message:
    microsoft-edge:
    The app didn't start.
    So the application did not start at all, if it did I would be notified by MBAE, so yes this is the only bug I have since upgrading to version 1511, build 10586.

    And no, MBAE is not the problem here, I have disabled its protection, and I always get the same messages.
    I just hope Microsoft will solve this bug with Microsoft Edge thing, I'm just wondering how many people have problems with opening Microsoft Edge-do you perhaps know this-am I the only one?
    Big thanks in advance.

    In the mean time, I use Firefox, Chrome and IE11 for surfing the net, and I'm happy with all the web-browsers, since they all work, update and upgrade 100%.
     
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  19. Brian K

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    You don't sleep at night?

    No, only the OS data is affected with a Reset. No partition changes occur.
     
  20. CoolWebSearch

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    Actually I don't sleep at all, because I have to learn a lot and I spend both days and nights since I have plenty of exams, and now that tiny problem with Microsoft Edge is just additional stress disturbance-that's because I'm truly 100% perfectionist, it's inside my character-my bad.
    Another reason is that I truly like Microsoft Edge, and I don't want to lose it just because of the Windows 10 upgrade bug.

    How many people cannot open Microsoft Edge after upgrade in the first place, am I the only one?

    What part of OS data exactly is affected by reset, what exactly inside the OS do I need to reinstall in the first place?
     
  21. Brian K

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    It makes it like a Win8 to Win10 upgrade. Hopefully it will fix any OS issues.

    The other thing you could try is a Win10 to Win10 upgrade.
     
  22. aigle

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    You can make an image of your C drive. Verify it by mounting it.

    Then try a reset. If it doesn't work you can restore the image.
     
  23. JRViejo

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    May I Remind Everyone That There's An Ongoing Thread: Windows 10 Issues, Problems & solutions, Where Edge Browser Issues Should Be Posted & Discussed There, As Not to Take This Thread Off Topic. Thank You!
     
  24. roger_m

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    Windows Update found 7 driver updates today, including a video driver update.
     
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    I didn't quite know exactly where to put this but since there is some debatable rant but mostly seriously disgusted and genuinely disappointed Windows 10 Upgrade experiences, maybe General Topics? Mods feel at liberty to move anywhere else acceptable.

    http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why-windows-10-sucks.html#TheEND

    I happened to run across this page completely by accident while searching everywhere online to get a feel for IF it might be worth my own effort to upgrade to 10 or just be happy with the perfectly operatable for a couple of years now Windows 8.0. This page (among countless others is a convincing argument enough for me to sit tight on what is working just fine for me and many others as well.

    Needless to say i was shocked by many of the comments engulfing a whole spectrum of results such as
    "The longer I use it the worse it gets. It removes utilities without warning; it unloads programs randomly; it has already slowed down; it keeps asking to choose default programs (don't know how many times I've had to select VLC!!) it worked better before the latest upgrade and the worst thing of all IMO is it's pathetic habit of installing crap behind your back and things start locking up and crashing mysteriously until you reboot and see the configuring windows message" just for one.
     
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