HI GF, I am at a decision point, I'm not sure what to do. Without installing a bunch of programs...is there any other way to "simply" remove; manually delete the bugs? I have the file location thanks to pcpitstop free online virus scan. And no, I will not be changing AV because Norton is the only cd I have. His pc had NO protection what so ever before yesterday. I did an online virus scan with Trend Housecall and it found nothing. Not sure what to make of that. Norton is completely up to date as well as the other programs I previously mentioned. As far as wiping out the hard drive/reinstalling windows. I have a burned version of WinXP that a friend gave me after I made a phone call. As far as restoration cds to write zero's to the hard drive I only have Win ME cd's. So now I am contemplating which route will be easier. I've never used a burned version of an Operating System. If it doesn't work...argh...then I'll have to go purchase one and probably get ripped off from an over priced retailer!!! ARGH!!! OK, GF...what would you do? reinstall windows or Blackspears method?