No more individual patches for Windows 7 and 8

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  1. Minimalist

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    Many times I've checked Scheduled Tasks I noticed that Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser and WS\License Validation tasks have been reenabled. That's happening for me last few years. I never tried to figure out what causes this, I just disabled them each time. Next time I'll check if Windows Update is enabling them.
     
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    Windows 7 & security-only telemetry - What gives?

    All your computer are belong to YOU! Here be an article discussing the presence of telemetry patches in the July monthly security-only updates for Windows 7, including overview of the technical problem, scheduled tasks, Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP) opt-in, user trust and future implications, system imaging and backups, correct update and upgrade strategy, other considerations, and more. Take a look.

    https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-7-security-only-updates-telemetry.html


    Cheers,
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  5. emmjay

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    'Companies fear reputation damage more than anything else'.

    - except for Microsoft.

    Microsoft's reputation has taken many hits over the decades but what damage has it ever done to their bottom line? They are not punished by investors or the mainstream media (the ones you would expect to deliver the heaviest blow). Notice how they treat their users even when an injustice was premeditated. Their partners and 'valued' clients fear not being with Microsoft even if they get stabbed in the back every now and again. Yes, we do have to trust a vendor to a certain degree, but monopolies push the envelop a bit too far - because they can.
     
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    OK, one more time about the Security Only Quality Update for Windows 7 KB4507456 and Telemetry.

    System: Windows 7 Pro 64-bit Dutch

    I did put back a backup-image from 10 July 2019 made before the July patches.

    Look at Task Scheduler screenshots before and after installing Security Only Quality Update for Windows 7 KB4507456
    We are looking at Task Scheduler Library > Microsoft > Windows > Application Experience.
    In particular at the entries "Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser" and "ProgramDataUpdater"

    1. Before installing Security Only Quality Update for Windows 7 KB4507456

    Here you see that both entries were disabled.
    Translation: "uitgeschakeld" means "disabled".
    I had those entries long ago manually disabled.

    TS_before-July-patch_2019-07-16_01.png

    2. After installing Security Only Quality Update for Windows 7 KB4507456
    I was off-line while I installed it.

    Here you see that both entries were no longer disabled anymore.
    They are now "ready".
    Translation: "gereed" means "ready".

    TS_after-July-patch_2019-07-16_02.png
     
  7. emmjay

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    I always check out the W7 monthly rollup previews to see what fixes will be in the recommended bundle for the following patch Tuesday. Known issues, prereqs and the like. NB: I never install previews.

    - The Windows 7 update, for example (KB4507437), only brings updated time zone information for Brazil.
    - If this remains 'as is' on patch Tuesday, users will be downloading 282.9MB to update a time zone ! There are no new known issues.
    - The security only update - no previews on this. The MS Catalog provides info on release date.

    We will have to wait and see. Maybe something of consequence will show between now and then.
    Here is a link if you want to know more ...

    https://news.softpedia.com/news/mic...-windows-monthly-rollup-previews-526744.shtml
     
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    - Don't forget that those "Rollup updates" are growing in size with each update. They include more and more previous smaller updates, these contain more and more system files, these make more and more previous updates obsolete. Even when there is no security leak/vulnerability to be fixed. These roll up updates are "Cumulative Updates", remember ?
    - We saw something similar with the updates for Internet Explorer. Instead of issueing several separate/individual updates Microsoft started in 2014 (or was it 2015) to issue (and keeps issueing !!!!!!) "Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer" each month.
    - The words "updated time zone information" do ring for me a VERY scary bell. There was a website that made a link between such updates and the spying by the NSA (hint, hint). First I thought this website "had lost its marbles" but the timing of one such "time zone information update" was extremely suspicious in mid 2014.
     
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    'Cumulative' is what makes a monthly rollup so large (you are correct). It means that the user is reinstalling the same thing over and over again. According to MS, the last major cleanup of W7 updates was way back in October 2016. I expect there is very little cleanup done on a monthly basis as MS resources have been moved over to the flag ship OS (understandably). One day W10 will be a 10GB per month download (just kidding).
     
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    If you are using Microsoft Security Essentials on W7, KB2310138 Definitions Update has a new name (in Windows Update) today. I am not sure if it is permanent or if Microsoft is sending us a one time update that is not a definitions update ...

    New name: KB2301038 Security Intelligence Update

    Let's see what tomorrow brings.
     
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    Yeah they rename it this way because they consider the word "definition" limited to just signatures.
     
  15. xxJackxx

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    It's a 1 time update as I saw this on a Windows 10 PC at the same time it also installed a definition update.
     
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    New name: KB2301038 Security Intelligence Update

    Just received today's definitions, and yes, this name change is permanent.

    For whatever reason they forgot to announce it beforehand. o_O They renamed Vista and called it Windows 7 - it got a makeover though.
     
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    FYI. An update on disabling VBScript in Internet Explorer 11
     
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    In this case, yes! :)
     
  22. mood

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    August 2019 Patch Tuesday Updates and Rollups

    Windows 7

    Security Only Quality Update for Windows 7 KB4512486 (25,2 MB / 42,2 MB)
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/08/windows6.1-kb4512486-x86_4c88f71af8e9d07e5fb141d7aed0bcc7f532781e.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/08/windows6.1-kb4512486-x64_547fe7e4099c11d494c95d1f72e62a693cd70441.msu
    
    Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 KB4512506 (182,7 MB / 285,6 MB)
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/08/windows6.1-kb4512506-x86_12e5961df2895fc5d45f19910702f2a49fcb08a9.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/08/windows6.1-kb4512506-x64_84e26e414da5d56991c15de19a93824d23b82e89.msu
    
    Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer KB4511872 (29,1 MB / 53,0 MB)
    Note: The monthly quality rollups include IE updates. The security only quality update does not. So, if you are installing the security only quality update, here are the direct links to IE updates:
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/08/ie11-windows6.1-kb4511872-x86_c3fb6c63c8c8b182559232b9bffcfb8d1d9c3830.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/08/ie11-windows6.1-kb4511872-x64_3f58d73f51b00b2007702526c0d9a7835dc9baf4.msu
    
    Windows 8.1

    Security Only Quality Update for Windows 8.1 KB4512489 (25,4 MB / 40,8 MB)
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/08/windows8.1-kb4512489-x86_5d1c3cc3d4947aadba26345eda1fee8fdf7836f0.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/08/windows8.1-kb4512489-x64_be2ed8f4ee800d8c39e5025c5d95808858077c05.msu
    
    Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 8.1 KB4512488 (292,8 MB / 458,8 MB)
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/08/windows8.1-kb4512488-x86_40870c2024d333699f4989eea3bec84b72595357.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/08/windows8.1-kb4512488-x64_d5a1a3f96004791981bf0d469e724fb97be4377d.msu
    
    Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer KB4511872 (29,6 MB / 55,0 MB)
    Note: The monthly quality rollups include IE updates. The security only quality update does not. So, if you are installing the security only quality update, here are the direct links to IE updates:
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/08/windows8.1-kb4511872-x86_cb467451ede41699135ccbce7e65d120860c0cb9.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/08/windows8.1-kb4511872-x64_0d41a6c1eb27d59b0cdbe58fcdb8b8e009696ad6.msu
    
    Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 8.1 KB4503308 (10,2 MB / 20,9 MB) [Note: June 2019]
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/06/windows8.1-kb4503308-x86_5920b9c73f3afffb3c41d93c65bc1d710cbf9699.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2019/06/windows8.1-kb4503308-x64_ef86508e21a1d53ac8515cfc005e4f3961cb1b64.msu
    
     
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    https://www.ghacks.net/2019/08/13/microsoft-windows-security-updates-august-2019-overview/

    NB: I did not use quotes, because I edited it.
     
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    Thanks for the updates.
     
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    Thanks a lot. Very useful, as usual.
     
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