Malwarebytes Anti-Ransomware Beta

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by ZeroVulnLabs, Jan 25, 2016.

  1. Victek

    Victek Registered Member

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    See the quote in #46. Basically depending on the ransomeware there are a number of attack vectors, and the new MalwareBytes Anti-RansomeWare (MBARW) protects by blocking the encrypting process itself. That would only be necessary if the ransomeware process gets past all of the earlier defenses, but wouldn't you want to block every possible vector?
     
  2. daman1

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    Has anybody installed this on W10? I think I read one of the known issues is it's not W10 compatible yet??
     
  3. Buddel

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    I installed it on my WIN10 Home Premium 32-bit computer, no problems so far.
     
  4. daman1

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    Hmmm ok I tried a new PC with W10 and it said cant install if upgrading from w8 to 10, But the PC came with w10 it wasn't upgraded.

    Anyone have a thought?
     
  5. Buddel

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    You're right, according to the "known issues" of the app, you can't install it if you upgraded from Windows 8 to 10. I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10, and it was no problem to get the app started. If it is a "fresh" Win 10 machine, you shouldn't encounter any problems. A new BETA build is to be released today, if I'm not mistaken. Let's hope that some issues will be fixed with the second BETA release.
     
  6. daman1

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    Correct, it was a brand new PC just bought. Ok thanks!
     
  7. ance

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    Don't be a poor sport! :geek:
     
  8. Rasheed187

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    I wouldn't mind paying a for a lifetime license.

    For us geeks, it would make more sense, it would also make MBAE more sexy. But from Malwarebytes' point of view, a new separate product will generate more buzz, and more sales.
     
  9. Rasheed187

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    Well, it does miss a couple of features. But nevertheless, it's an interesting new product. The only thing that bugs me is why it has to be a 35 MB download. Remember, MBAE and HMPA are quite small packages.

    It's behavior based monitoring, just like HMPA. It's something that I'm missing in my current setup.
     
  10. ZeroVulnLabs

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    Beta2 was just released
    https://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?/topic/177751-introducing-malwarebytes-anti-ransomware/

    Known Issue:
    • If installing the upgrade on Windows 8.1 x64 over a previous Beta, the service may not start automatically. In this case, simply click Start Protection on the Malwarebytes Anti-Ransomware dashboard or run the Beta installer a second time.

    Improvements:
    • Improved rules to prevent false positives on legitimate software

    Issues Fixed:
    • Fixed issue that interfered with proper detection of latest CryptoWall 4 variant
    • Fixed issue where incorrect product version showed in Change Log


    Download and install over the top or wait for the automatic upgrade to prompt you to apply the upgrade.
     
  11. RejZoR

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    Is this tool planned to remain free (at least like the Anti-Exploit)?
     
  12. ZeroVulnLabs

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    Once we have concrete plans we'll post them here. For now the objective is to test the tech out as much as possible.
     
  13. G1111

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    Trying latest beta (along with Emsisoft Internet Security, Appguard and MBAE). All programs work except TrendMicro Rootkitbuster which is flagged as ransomware. There was nothing in quarantine and got the popup to reboot (to delete it). It was removed on reboot so no chance to restore from quarantine. For now I excluded it. Posted logs in MBARw beta forum.

    Also tray icon looks same whether protection running or not. Should be like MBAE where it changes to white when not running.

    Looks likes it is running two processes. One is called MBAMService.exe which looks like it is for MBARw not MB anti-malware. This is a bit confusing.

    All other programs seem to work okay.
     
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  14. haakon

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    The service executables for MBARW BETA and MBAM have the same name but different file versions and service names. They of course open from different paths and for MBAM in Premium only. Different connectivity, too - MBAM to 127.0.0.1, MBARW to amazonaws, port 443 (for me; globally that most likely differs).

    Anyone yet notice MBARW BETA autoruns from the Startup folder? Haven't seen that in years. :)
     
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  15. ZeroVulnLabs

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    Please don't pay attention to the UI/Service/startup components. It's just a quick and dirty app.

    The main objective is to test the anti-ransomware technology.
     
  16. RejZoR

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    I've watched some videos and it's working really well.
     
  17. haakon

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    G1111 expressed confusion about MBAMService.exe so I offered up clarification. And my observation about the startup was just that, an observation.

    Your audience here tends to remove the covers to watch the gears and motors run and might comment if they see a vacuum tube. We can't help but pay attention. I know, it's a sickness. :D

    As to the testing:
    Running on my test Windows 10 system, MBARW is pretty smooth and accepts my browser, mail, office and RSS apps as well as some pretty arcane utilities and tools, many of which were written long before 10. Where I might have suspected problems, I didn't find any: VeraCrypt container creation and mounting; 7z and Arc executable archiving with AES and Serpent encryption.

    Pretty consistent, tho, are FPs for those stand-alone apps that launch and write an exe to the system temp folder. I can repeat the FP consistently with Sysinternals' Process Explorer. It was not resolved with Beta2.

    I'm also of the thinking you need to do away with the assertive "cannot restore something marked for removal" which involves a mandatory reboot. That's a loose description since I didn't take notes or screen shots as someone posted up in good detail in the Malwarebytes forum already.

    Looking forward to the continued development of MBARW...
     
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  18. daman1

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    You do realize this is done purely through behavior analysis? Most other apps don't even have a clue how to detect ransomware even virtually efficient...
     
  20. ance

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  21. ZeroVulnLabs

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    Agreed 100% haakon, thanks for your feedback!!

    Nathan answered that in our forum already:
     
  22. oliverjia

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    LOL. How many separate anti-malware products are you going to make?
    Why not just combine all functions into a single product with a larger price tag? I personally don't like to install a ton of individual anti-malware modules disguised as independent programs.
     
  23. ZeroVulnLabs

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    Our objective is for you to install and maintain 15 different clients on each of your PCs :D

    Read this -> https://forums.malwarebytes.org/ind...-mbam-and-mbae-why-do-i-need-anti-ransomware/
     
  24. digmor crusher

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    Correct me if I'm wrong pbust, but I believe I read on your forum that MBARW will be combined with MBAM? I am unclear if MBAM, MBARW and MBAE will be combined into 1 product?
     
  25. trjam

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    yeah but combining into one security suite product would be a huge seller for Malwarebytes.
     
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