Malware Research Group - CIS 4 BETA vs Top Guns

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by Dragons Forever, Jan 16, 2010.

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  1. jmonge

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    thanks dragons_forever for the linkk and comodo did very good in this test
     
  2. PC__Gamer

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    do not rely on these as 'testers' :rolleyes:
     
  3. jmonge

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    why gamer?:D
     
  4. PC__Gamer

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    not very reputable in my opinion :thumbd:

    stick with the Marx av-test, was comodo tested in their latest dynamic tests?

    so, because Kaspersky says something is a virus, it is?

    I imagine these are (and always have imagined to them be...) a couple of fellas, who like to do a little virii collecting, testing some products, using virustotal too, and dont actually know themselfs how to check for viral code/behaviours to check their samples are valid.

    I see nothing in their little website to lead me to believe they are professional testers who know what they are doing...

    but - thats just my conlusion, you may like them. :D
     
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  5. jmonge

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    do you have the link to read some:thumb:
     
  6. lordraiden

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    The only say that the malware names are according to karspersky, in all the test the names of the malware have to be according to something. I think that you have misunderstood the sentence
     
  7. Triple Helix

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  8. Sveta MRG

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    I didn't expect anything better coming from you;)

    How much people believe in that thread is shown by the fact that every test of ours is presented here within minutes of it being published on our site.

     
  9. Sveta MRG

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    If anybody has any questions about the test, I will be , as always, happy to answer them:)

    Regards,
    Sveta
     
  10. I appreciate this test. It gives a indication, whether 10,000 samples were used or 100,000 samples were used, where the Comodo AV is at and how much it has improved in it's detection abilities.
     
  11. PC__Gamer

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    can you check viral code and cypher if its a virus, its behaviour and the best way to remove such a threat?

    i highly doubt this, so on that basis - you shouldn't be testing antivirus products against your so-called collections.

    anyone in the world can open up a VM, go and get some viruses or what are led to be, start clicking and start checking Process Manager for infection, then check which products clear up the product, what makes you such experts?
     
  12. simisg

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    this is true you must know what the real malicious code do to know if the file is malicious . but in my opinion a good antimalware in these days must stop everything real suspicious . im trust only the tests of AV-Comparatives and not completely comodo can stop everything because of the hips not because the antivirus and has also good heuristics but aggresive. removal of a virus is another story......
     
  13. aigle

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    I find no way to go past the first page/ EULA. :rolleyes: Using Opera n FF in Ubuntu.
     
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  15. Sveta MRG

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    First of all are you serious? Reading your posts I ask myself one thing, do you know what you are talking about:doubt:

    Yes I can analyze a sample and determine if its malicious or not and in 99% of the cases I'm correct.

    Do I have time to check every sample? No, we get `5.000+ samples every day, checking every sample manually would take forever. FYI checking the samples is an automated process these days.....

    VM and process manager is not enough to conduct a live infection test;)

    Somebody answered the question about Kaspersky's malware library so I will not bother with that one, that just shows your knowledge in this area and motives in this thread.

    Do I consider myself an expert, well real experts are the ones we are fighting (malware creators) , we are all one step behind;)

    Do some research and at least make it sound like you know what you are talking about next time;)

    Regards,
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  16. Kees1958

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    Sveta,

    There is a story going around that MRG would have leaked samples to Comodo in the past. Can you provide some background on this topic. Better clear this accusation, otherwiseI all tests in reference to Comodo will be over shadowed by this rumour/story.

    Regards Kees
     
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  17. PC__Gamer

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    lol, i aint the one doing crappy little tests am I?

    I dont need to sound like i know what im talking about - thats your job, and your failing miserably.

    Ive been reading these forums, and searching through the posts shows not many other people agree with your 'tests' either. :D
     
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  18. Triple Helix

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    You should smell the coffee in the morning because no one in the security community takes you or Chris seriously! That plane has already crashed with the history of unethical and misleading practices makes you and your site of any test untrustworthy!! And you can take that to the bank! Or are you going to make threats like Chris to other Security Site's and Venders?


    TH
     
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  19. Sveta MRG

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    Those are just rumors, when we asked for proof there was none, some people don't want us around, it is as simple as that.
    You don't have to take my word for it, ask (there are many people from COMODO here, mods ect) if a single sample ever went from MRG to COMODO.

    Regards,
    Sveta
     
  20. JohnnyDollar

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    Sveta MRG,
    IMO I think the fact that two of your associates were caught using multiple user names on this forum here and pretending to be other people did more damage to your reputation than the alleged uploading of samples to Comodo. I know that you acknowledged and tried to explain this in the old thread, but the damage is done. If you objectively look at the situation then surely you would have to be honest with yourself that this type of unethical behavior has tarnished your reputation that may take a long long time to recover from. Unfortunately the possibility remains that you will never recover from this, at least on this particular forum anyway.

    JD
     
  21. kaixi

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    Sveta,

    Until today, I couldn't access your website. Every time I got redirected to that graphic.php page.
     
  22. firzen771

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    well thats not much proof from ur side either, if u wer in connection with Comodo, why on earth wuld they admit to receiving samples making themselves and u guys look bad? idk whether u did or didnt send samples, but telling us to go ask comodo isnt clearing u up in anyway... and btw MODS wuld know anything about samples being sent to Comodo, since mods dont work at comodo, typically ther just volunteers. and all ive seen here is andyman and dragons so i dont think they can really give much reassurance
     
  23. LowWaterMark

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    We're not going to go down this road yet again. We've had threads on this many times already.

    The link to the latest MRG test is in the first post on this thread. Read it if you want or don't.

    If you want to discuss the test further, you can do it at their forum.
     
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