Start Menu Broken Down After Upgrading to Windows 10 Fall Creators Update

Here is the solution. I had the same problem but it only occurred if Emsisoft was installed. This fixed it.

https://www.tenforums.com/general-s...skbar-not-working-fall-creators-update-2.html

Go to Settings -> Accounts -> Sign In Options and turn off "Use my sign-in info to automatically finish setting up my device after an update or a restart". This appears to prevent the windows start menu hang from happening.

 

As I understand it, that setting is for helping updates and upgrades during the process. Speeds it up.

Bo

 

@Krusty mentioned this one earlier (#114), and I think this may have fixed it ... to early to tell for sure.

 

I see some have also had luck disabling Ethernet connection and using WiFi instead.

Page 10 here - https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...ading-to/3ad997ca-cbaa-42a2-8df5-2d05d43cd5c0

Perhaps against my better judgement I have unhidden 1709 on one machine and will try the trick mentioned in #114. Of course I have created an image backup before beginning, just in case.

Wish me luck.

 

Good luck, Krusty. Another Ethernet trick was mentioned in post 110 but seemed a bit extravagant there--was Ethernet and Windows update method the common parts here? I hope it goes successfully, this sure has been a trying time. The first CU was a snap and a breeze in comparison.

 

Krusty,

After a successful first week the Start Menu started to fail in my 1709 test computer. It gradually worsened and your #114 trick didn't work. I restored a 1703 image yesterday and today upgraded to 1709 from the same UFD I used a few weeks ago. Let's see what happens over the next week or two.

 

Thanks @plat1098 .

Hmm, that is interesting. I wonder...

Yes, I've not had any trouble with any of the earlier upgrades but this one is a right PITA.

Oh, Start menu played up on you too! That can't be a good sign.

Have you tried disconnecting from Ethernet and using WiFi?

Edit: @Brian K , perhaps we'll get an update on Wednesday to address this bug? That would be nice.

 

I've been on WiFi all along.

So this is a UFD ISO upgrade from 1703. Was it a clean install a few weeks ago?

 

1703 to 1709 upgrade on about 19 October. No problems for 7 to 10 days and then the Start button started to become unreliable and worsened.

From what I've read about the fixes you may as well face magnetic north when you start your computer. Probably just as useful.

 

Way too early to get excited but the Start menu bug has not shown itself on this newly upgraded machine, yet!

Finger and toes crossed.

 

Same here, #114 on existing setup.

 

Still no problem here, yet.

For the record, the machine I have recently upgraded I have restricted fairly heavily with O&O Shutup10, unlike the machine with the clean install of 1709.

O&O Shutup10 may not be responsible at all, of course it would stop Windows sending telemetry about any such issues, but that isn't the point.

 

Before upgrading Windows 10, the changes made by O&O ShutUp10 should be reverted back to defaults. Better still, don´t use it, configure privacy from Windows.

 

Thats good advice. I think one of the reasons I don't have issues in W10 is because I don't use that kind of programs. There are other reasons, but not using third party programs to change settings in Windows is a big one.

Bo

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/4048955/windows-10-update-kb4048955

I see the machine I hid 1709 on is downloading it again, even though it was hidden and upgrades on that machine were 'blocked' by O&O Shutup10.

 

Bought a Samsung Evo 250GB NVMe and replaced the pre-existing one. Within five minutes of being on the new desktop: frozen Start menu, extreme delay of task bar items launching, Edge frozen with 13% CPU/svc host state repository, Task Host Window/Plug and Play at shutdown. Horrible. Can't help but think it's this type of SSD, even though others had the issues with regular ones. Managed to get a Windows reset via right click on Start menu and it's useable for now.

There are now a few threads online about issues with Fall CU and Samsung NVMe, which I sorta suspected but things are still vague. Can't pick up with Macrium while this is still so unstable. Can't believe that download would override O&O settings either, well yes, I can.

 

If you keep metered connection option enabled, Win Updates will fail on the download of 1709 feature update. That's what happened to me for the Oct. update. I enabled metered connection and received and installed 1709 in the Nov. update.

All I can say is the 1709 install took forever with multiple reboots. Exact opposite of the 1703 update which installed relatively fast.

 

It turned out that 1709 didn't install on that machine after all.

Gees, that sucks! Sorry to hear you are still having these issues. Touch wood, I haven't had the Start menu freeze bug since #114.

 

I think solution in #114 has run long enough to confirm that it solves the problem, here at least.

Still have missing missing panel issues on Start Menu on both machines (one , but that is a different issue - and one I am hardly bothered to investigate further. Maybe try Start8, or one of the other Start replacement softs.

 

Is it normal to see the "Waiting" circle at ver. 1709 boot time? I never had that happen on ver. 1703.

 

Yes.
But then you find all the icons in the bar already loaded after you entered the password.

 

I never had a problem with that issue in ver. 1703.

I am also not having my sound taskbar icon initialize until the desktop has been displayed a few seconds.

 

Not so. The bloody Start menu bug (not responding) showed up first thing this morning on the machine with a clean install.

The only change was installing HMP.A Build 723. Maybe, or may not be related.

I haven't seen that yet.

Yes, sometimes I don't get the Windows Start tone now until after I've logged in.