VappWare Real Time Browser Protection(Browser Condom)

[mswiczar]

HI, i want to present my freeware version of a sandbox like surfing protection
Its developed using thsi techniques

#SSDT patching
#Minifilter Kernel Mode File System filter
Please try it at:


hxxp://www.vappware.com

[Pedro]

So how do you compare regarding SandboxIE, GeSWall, etc.
Only the way it operates.

[Seer]

Hello mswiczar.

You are advertising unknown code in one sentence. I expected a full review. Tell us more please...

[Perman]

Hi, folks: I briefly viewed your first posting few hours ago, then it disappeared. IMO, you better rephrase your post title; a bit away from XXX sense. I clicked your web site, and do have few questions; (1) is your baby (still in alpha ?) similiar to other sandbox apps such as Sandboxie, if not, how? (2) you say on web site, your baby virtulizes registry and disk, but not the whole O/S. You have lost me right there, are you saying O/S is not stored on disk? then where it may be ? As far as I know that sandbox/virtualization apps insulate app/apps , partition or the drive, quite different from you have advocated. Your expert opinions are most welcomed here. Thanks.

[besafe]

Originally Posted by mswiczar

HI, i want to present my freeware version of a sandbox like surfing protection
Its developed using thsi techniques

#SSDT patching
#Minifilter Kernel Mode File System filter
Please try it at:


hxxp://www.vappware.com

I didn't click on the link you provided because I have no idea who you are. For all I know, that link could be be a big malware trap.

But I would like to hear more about your product. Can you please provide some more details? Maybe a screen shot?

[cheater87]

*Pokes link with a stick* Name seems fishy. I'll wait to see if its ok and if it is I'll download it on the old family PC.

[mswiczar]

Hi, i ll try to answer your questions

1) My baby is still in alpha, i must solve some known issues like installing software inside the sandbox. Now the baby is the Microsoft Driver Verifier, when i finish with the Driver verifier i ll put it in beta.

2)What i mean when i said Virtualize just your app, i mean not all the OS like
the VMWare, Virtual PC or Bosch implementation.
I dont know how SandboxIE works, my aproach is very simple.I dont use lazy writers. I ll try to explain how its works.

A) When your application need a file it will search in the right path, and then the Condom copy this file to the sandbox repository, so the application works with the copy of the file.
If the file is in the sandbox repository, it just us it.
to archive it i use a File system minifilter Driver.

B) when your application need something from the registry, it allways use the Sandboxed repository of the registry. The registry repositoy is a backup of the real registry using the Win32 Api well documented in the SDK.An then restored using diferent name
to archive it i use a a SSDT patching mechanism well documented in a lot of Rootkits open source. Because winxp do not have any method of get the same results.

c) OpenProcess and WriteprocessMemory, Createremotethread,Service control manager, undocumented ways to load images to memory (Nt SetsystemInformation), are patched as well to prevent any kind of treats.



The sandbox is 1 folder called Vcondom.
Inside it you have 2 directories 1 for Disk and other from Registry.
Inside the Disk directory you have a new directory for each Device Example:
HardiskVolume1/N

Inside the Registry directory you have the sandbox registry.


Thats all.

Originally Posted by Perman

Hi, folks: I briefly viewed your first posting few hours ago, then it disappeared. IMO, you better rephrase your post title; a bit away from XXX sense. I clicked your web site, and do have few questions; (1) is your baby (still in alpha ?) similiar to other sandbox apps such as Sandboxie, if not, how? (2) you say on web site, your baby virtulizes registry and disk, but not the whole O/S. You have lost me right there, are you saying O/S is not stored on disk? then where it may be ? As far as I know that sandbox/virtualization apps insulate app/apps , partition or the drive, quite different from you have advocated. Your expert opinions are most welcomed here. Thanks.

[mswiczar]

Give me more time.
for now its an alpha version.
try to explain to your mother what is sandbox.

Originally Posted by cheater87

*Pokes link with a stick* Name seems fishy. I'll wait to see if its ok and if it is I'll download it on the old family PC.

[mswiczar]

Yes.
its an easy implementation.

Originally Posted by Someone

So how do you compare regarding SandboxIE, GeSWall, etc.
Only the way it operates.

[mswiczar]

Originally Posted by besafe

I didn't click on the link you provided because I have no idea who you are. For all I know, that link could be be a big malware trap.

But I would like to hear more about your product. Can you please provide some more details? Maybe a screen shot?

My name is Moises, i dont have security Number because i live in Argentina.
but if you want to see my bussines i ll sugest to install from VMWare a vmplayer, then a virtual apliance, Browser apliance (linux (Ubuntu flavor)+ firefox) and from inside this shield you could be feel protected.

Bye

[Pedro]

If i understood you correctly, and don't take me wrong, that's SandboxIE's description, if we switch "condom" with sandbox.
SandboxIE has been around for quite some time. You might want to try it.

You have a file system virtualisation sandbox. This we understand.
A question: why "condom"?

[cheater87]

No one uses that old PC anymore so it should be ok.

[mswiczar]

Originally Posted by Someone

If i understood you correctly, and don't take me wrong, that's SandboxIE's description, if we switch "condom" with sandbox.
SandboxIE has been around for quite some time. You might want to try it.

You have a file system virtualisation sandbox. This we understand.
A question: why "condom"?

how to explain to my mother what a sandbox is.

She knows what is a condom.

[Perman]

Hi, folks: Just to lite(not light) up the air density here, no offense. Perhaps, C---M is a household name, and sandbox is a kid's toy in his view. When was the last time you played the sandbox ?

[mswiczar]

Originally Posted by Perman

Hi, folks: Just to lite(not light) up the air density here, no offense. Perhaps, C---M is a household name, and sandbox is a kid's toy in his view. When was the last time you played the sandbox ?

My dear fella, could you try to explain me how you cant prevent any virus disease with this toy. the word condom is a good aproach to reach the consumer group.

CONDOM is not a bad word, its a only way to be protected. try to explain it to your children now or in the furure.

please write CONDOM 100 times, the next reply.

Best Regards.

[Seer]

Hello.

originally posted by mswiczar:

CONDOM is not a bad word, its a only way to be protected.

No, the best way to stay protected is not to mess with fishy stuff.
Anyway, I coughed some money for DefenseWall recently, so I think I'll just pass and wait for your beta baby.

Cheers.

[steve161]

When was the last time you played in a sandbox

Good point, but I sometimes hang out in a bar in the Bronx called the Sandbox. As far as whether it is safe to download this program, I downloaded it to my sandbox(ie) and checked it with A-squared and AOL AVS. It came up clean. Obviously, this is by no means a seal of approval, but just a little information for you more adventurous types.

[Perman]

Hi, folks: ~Snip~ I am sure your baby is no different from others. I rather wait for your next generation's beta or its final version to try on. Good luck.

[lucas1985]

Originally Posted by mswiczar

My name is Moises, i dont have security Number because i live in Argentina.

Welcome compatriot
Sandboxes and others virtualization tools are quite popular here at Wilders, alongside other nonconventional approaches to security (HIPS, behaviour blockers, integrity checkers, etc). You will have very hard competition because there are some well established players: GeSWall, Defensewall, Sandboxie, GreenBorder, BufferZone and others.
Best wishes to you and your "baby"

[mswiczar]

Originally Posted by lucas1985

Welcome compatriot
Sandboxes and others virtualization tools are quite popular here at Wilders, alongside other nonconventional approaches to security (HIPS, behaviour blockers, integrity checkers, etc). You will have very hard competition because there are some well established players: GeSWall, Defensewall, Sandboxie, GreenBorder, BufferZone and others.
Best wishes to you and your "baby"

Thanks, i ll try to do my best. Im trying to put this technology to end users and not only for an elite.

Yes, there are a lot of good competitors, this is good, and this make me more enthusiastic.and make me feel proud.

Hope will be a nice race. I started late, but never is too late...


like Winston Churchil said:

..."Every day you may make progress. Every step may be fruitful. Yet there will stretch out before you an ever-lengthening, ever-ascending, ever-improving path. You know you will never get to the end of the journey. But this, so far from discouraging, only adds to the joy and glory of the climb"...

[lucas1985]

Originally Posted by mswiczar

Im trying to put this technology to end users and not only for an elite.

Unfortunately, the average user is not aware of the security risks of the Internet until he/she is swindled.

Originally Posted by mswiczar

Yes, there are a lot of good competitors, this is good, and this make me more enthusiastic.and make me feel proud.

Fair competition is always good.

BTW, where are you living right now?

[mswiczar]

Originally Posted by lucas1985

Unfortunately, the average user is not aware of the security risks of the Internet until he/she is swindled.

Fair competition is always good.

BTW, where are you living right now?

I hope the Word Condom will be useful.

Im living In Argentina.

[lucas1985]

Originally Posted by mswiczar

I hope the Word Condom will be useful.

It certainly has potential. Time will tell.

Originally Posted by mswiczar

Im living In Argentina.

OK. I´m in Villa María, Córdoba.

[Peter2150]

Originally Posted by lucas1985

It certainly has potential. Time will tell.

OK. I´m in Villa María, Córdoba.

Given your rational for the word Condom, given the connotation it has it is not good. It seems most of the people who seek out computer advice from me are women. I would recommend Sandboxie, and can easily explain what a sandbox is. No way am I going to recommend a product with the name Condom.

I think you can do better than that.

Pete

[Seer]

Hey Pete, good observation, women indeed are less computer savvy (generally). It is embarassing and offending to recommend to my mother or my sister a condom for protection...