ZeroVulnerabilityLabs ExploitShield

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  1. Notok

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    Most of the conflicts just prevent ES from working. If you use Process Explorer to view the DLLs loaded by your browser, then you should see ExploitShield.dll or ExploitShield64.dll, but some security apps will prevent this DLL from loading with the browser.
     
  2. ZeroVulnLabs

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    I think you might be correct. We will take a closer look.

    @kjdemuth, I think he was referring to the following:
    http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=13794
     
  3. Peter2150

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    No errors. Just ES wasn't running.

    The link is back somewhere in the thread. Rather then searching:

    Under Resource Access>IPC Access>Drect Access

    Add theses two lines.
    $:Exploitshield.exe
    *\BaseNamedObjects*\ZVL_IPC_Channel*

    That's it. Then you can check and confirm it's now running.

    Hopefully the one who first posted this can chime in and take his deserved credit.

    Pete
     
  4. Peter2150

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    Another note for Appguard users:

    I used Firefox sandboxed to view moves online with NetFlix. When I added ES, all movie loading stopped in 7%. I was getting an Appguard message, that Appguard was blocking memory access to Plugin-Container.exe.

    Adding a memory read/write exclusion to ExploitShield.exe to memory Guard in Appguard solved the problem.

    Pete
     
  5. kjdemuth

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    Thanks for the info pete.
     
  6. Tyrizian

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    I would like to make a small, but simple suggestion

    Hopefully it's good enough to be implemented

    Here it goes:

    When opening a protected program (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Chrome, etc.), the ES icon should change to green, by simply letting the user know the following app is under ExploitShield's protection (Demonstrated below)
    Indicators.jpg

    Hovering over the ES icon (tooltip) should also read:

    Green icon (Protected program) = "Exploitshield is protecting you"
    White icon (Process running) = "ExploitShield is running" or just "ExploitShield"

    The above are just examples, it's up to you if you want to do such a thing or not.

    I dunno, it's up to you if you want to implement these suggestions or not. I just think it's a simple, but yet convenient way of letting your users know that ExploitShield is doing it's job correctly (Rather than opening up ES to find out that way)
     
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    That's a good suggestion @radeon0101, we'll add it to our backlog. Thanks!
     
  9. Peter2150

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    Excellent. Radeon beat me to the idea.

    Pete
     
  10. CoolWebSearch

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    What does the following post means?
    http://blog.trailofbits.com/2012/10/29/ending-the-love-affair-with-exploitshield/

    I'm not an expert in anything so I cannot comment because it seems to be too technical, but this review of exploit shield didn't sound too good(?)...
    Does anyone know what the author of this post was trying to say about Exploit shield?

    And will exploit shield be able to protect Nitro PDF reader from exploits?
     
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  11. ZeroVulnLabs

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    It's been covered before earlier in this thread.

    Basically they mostly only look at the interception mechanism of ExploitShield and its implementation, which is the least important part of ExploitShield. When it comes to reversing the actual blocking intelligence/algorithms, they only look at the tip of the iceberg and even then get it wrong.

    Our full response here:
    http://www.zerovulnerabilitylabs.com/home/the-objective-of-exploitshield-beta/
     
  12. CoolWebSearch

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    Thanks a lot for this very quick response and link. To be honest I still don't know the definition of "exploit" what exactly is it?
     
  13. ZeroVulnLabs

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    Thank you, that's good :thumb:
     
  15. Tyrizian

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    Sorry about that :D
     
  16. Notok

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    When an app has a security vulnerability, the exploit is the bit of code (script) that exploits that vulnerability to make the target app download and execute the payload (such as a trojan).

    So you go to a website that contains a malicious script that tricks the vulnerable browser into automatically downloading and executing a malicious exe. The script is the exploit and the exe is the payload.
     
  17. CoolWebSearch

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    Ok, thanks for this explanation.
     
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    ZeroVulnLabs

    From web page list: -
    .............Any E.T.A on resolving these. Could be a deal breaker for some ?

    - cheers
    feandur
     
  20. Mman79

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    I'm running BitDefender Free here with no obvious issues. The tray icon is showing just fine.
     
  21. puff-m-d

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    Hello ZVL,

    Pale moon browser works fine by renaming the exe from palemoon.exe to Firefox.exe. Since a simple rename makes it work, I am hoping that means it would be a simple thing to add palemoon to the next beta release. I ask because all of the renaming (exe, links, shortcuts, etc) can be a big pain. Of course with an update you have to be sure to change the name back or delete the old as you rename the new all over again. Thanks for considering this.
     
  22. Peter2150

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    Last night, I tried a check deposit at one of my bank sites. It uses Java. I got an alert, with nothing useful either in the pop up or the log. It is a legitimate Java use. There for a false positive.

    This is bad, as it negates the user doesn't need to be aware.

    Pete

    PS Can't give you the link as you need to log into my bank.
     
  23. Notok

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    Same.

    However I did have Bitdefender cause problems with tray icons in general, including its own, at one point. I've seen genuine problems with the tray icon and ES not running right, but the Bitdefender issue that I experienced just seemed to be the Windows issue with losing tray icons.

    I seem to remember other software resolving this by somehow 'refreshing' the icon. Perhaps Radeon's idea would allow you to do that more easily.
     
  24. ZeroVulnLabs

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    @Feandur we still need to do some more testing before contacting each of these vendors to have it fixed. It appears that in some cases the issue happens while in others (such as just reported by @Mman79 & @Notok) it does not.

    @puff-m-d, in a future version we might add the ability to customize shields by yourself (ie add a shield for a certain application).

    @Peter2150, you're right, that's obviously an FP. We are working on including a local exclusion system to be able to manage FPs.
     
  25. Notok

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    I should mention that when Bitdefender was having problems with tray icons, ES was one of the first affected. It's just that on some reboots the BD icon itself would go missing as as well. With BD, ES continued to work. This issue tends to happen when you have multiple programs that start early in the boot process, and it's been a bug since Win9x or so. The bug was with the SSDP discovery service, but disabling it no longer seems to work as well as it used to.

    OTOH there have also been real issues where the icon didn't show and ES didn't work.

    It's just worth disambiguating. The first should be relatively easy to fix, but it's also something that's likely to happen somewhat randomly and will likely persist until addressed in some way. I think all security software runs into this at some point.
     
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