Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by fax, Feb 15, 2008.
ZA ForceField 184.108.40.206 Beta
Don't shoot the messenger....
If this had a configuration for Opera I would try it.
Thanks for the heads up. Last time I tried it added 5 processes. Hopefully thats isn't the case anymore.
Uuuhm.. that depends on the number of IE/FF windows/tabs you have opened...
(but I haven't check it lately)
Ok cool. I usually have around 6 -8 tabs open in FF.
I've been attracted to ZA Forcefield from day one. Ran it in an earlier beta and I liked it. I've downloaded the latest, removed Returnil for the moment, and will play with ZAF for a while.
I don't know if it's as secure as Returnil. I haven't read anything one way or the other. I can say this. MSIE 6 which I use, is a Lot faster with ZAF installed, almost on a par with Kmeleon 1.1.3 (which apparently doesn't run under ZAF). Then, I can't get FF 2.xx to load with ZAF either and can't find where to select the browser. No matter, I can live with MSIE for the time being.
If somebody has run any malware tests on ZAF, I'm hoping they post the results.
*edit* I have discovered that I'll either have to run Sandboxie or ZAF. When I engage Sandboxie, ZAF doesn't run.
Installed it. Tried it. Uninstalled it. Normally it takes Firefox about 5 seconds to open. With Forcefield it takes 30 seconds. Entire pc is actually slower. Guess thats why they call it beta.
I have not tried it, but I like the concept (at least of what I understand about it).
Normal modus (sort of Policy Sandbox Plus):
- anti fishing
- anti keylogger
- starts browser with limited user rights
Private browser modus
- virtual sandbox (like SandBoxie and SafeSpacePersonal).
I will be watching this ap.
I think the 'virtual sandbox' is both active in normal and private mode.
The only difference between the two is that the virtual data in private browsing mode is erased as soon as the windows is closed. While in normal mode virtual data is kept up to when is cleared manually via the FF interface.
I don't know about memory usage of other sandbox applications but FF seems light on my system or at least I cannot notice any slowdown.
I see between 5 to 6 processes in the task manager (VISTA with 4Giga of RAM). With a total use of 113MB memory footprint with three IE7 tabs opened. Seems a lot but you have to discount the IE process that is replaced by FF. i.e. on balance between 35-45MB memory usage overall (depending on tabs/windows opened).
How is the memory usage of other sandboxing utilities?? I would be courious to know.
Not on the box with GeSWall and HauteSecure, but DefenseWall is between 10K and 25K
Anyone on Sanboxie and SafeSpace?
With Firefox open, Sandboxie is using five processes totalling 16mb of memory useage. If not running anything sandboxed then there are two processes running using about 8mb.
Please consider this is on my pc and on others the useage may vary. I'm running it on Windows XP SP2.
Agree, it slow downs everything to the max.
No slow down on VISTA or XP machine here...
But both machine are clean of multiple security tools. Only a main AV/AS
Still a bit unstable on VISTA.
An my password utility does not work anymore correctly even if I shutdown the anti-keylogging...
GesWall is here.
For SafeSpace see:
Does SafeSpace replace IE with its own process or on top of SafeSpace memory footprint you have to add IE memory?
In other words: is IE process still in task manager when using SafeSpace?
I tried safespace it its slower then Force Field.
Well, so much for ZA Forcefield. Had to remove it. It ran fine for a day or so and then started locking up my browser (MSIE6). It would freeze for as much as a half a minute after clicking a button before working.
I noticed no slowdown when it worked. It's a Beta program. Maybe I'll try the next version, or wait until it's released. I'm back to Returnil.
Yes, IE is there as well.
Ah, OK... thanks for the add-on info!
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