Wow! Look at WSA at AV-Test

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  1. Thankful

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    Panda seems to be doing fine...waiting for the launch!:D
     
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    If it wasn't for them giving Eset such a high score in usability they would have been outscored by every single vendor. They obviously need to hire some more innovative coders. It takes for ever for builds, and bug fixes to be rolled out as it is. I'm seriously considering switching to Kaspersky on some of my machines, and give them a try. I really like how well their products has been performing the past 2 years. I always look at how well a product performs over a years period to get an understanding of how reliable a product is. The question is really will it run as good with my setup as Eset. That's the only thing thats been keeping me running NOD 32 for the past year now. It runs well with my other security apps. Getting back to WSA... I do have a problem with WSA. I have tried installing it on my laptop twice recently, and I got a BSOD each time just about as soon as the desktop loaded. I have not had time to send a bug report, but maybe soon I can. Ok, back to Eset.. I'm just so back, and forth today. I really don't want to have to switch AV's, but I really don't like Eset's lack of progress in comparison with other vendors such as Norton, Kaspersky, Bitdefender, Panda, etc.. My advice to Eset is the following. 1. You need to develop a true cloud AV. It will give you loads of incoming data to analyze on new emerging malware. There's just too much to keep up with these days without it. 2. You have to improve your products ability to remove malware. It has really been below the industry standard for some time now. It has been in test like these anyways. I do believe these are valid test. Take these suggestions for what it's worth, but don't believe my opinions are bias in any way since I've been using NOD 32 since 2003. The first step to fixing a problem or improving on anything is acknowledging ones own weaknesses. Until Eset acknowledges their weak areas then they will never reach their potential.
     
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    Please contact support and they will be happy to fix the issue with your Laptop! http://www.webrootanywhere.com/support

    TH
     
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    Thank You Triple Helix! I do want to use it on my laptop. I hope they can discover the problem.
     
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    A vendor that isn't mentioned often is AVG. I don't use it but its detection and total score has been rock solid over the years.
     
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    Congrats to WSA but I will also have to say the same for bitdefender for its high protection and repair.My MY poor ESET gotta a spanking.
     
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    Yes it has been solid.
     
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    No mention here of Microsoft. Will version 4 bring improved detection?
     
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    It's supposed to. It better. It ought to for Microsoft's sake.

    What's the point of including an AV in Win 8 if it's going to come out publicly that they let it start sucking again like the OneCare days and everyone will abandon it.
     
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    I notice from your signature that you use AppGuard. Was AppGuard running when you got the BSOD?
     
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    And your authority for issuing this decree is . . .? ;)
     
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    Let me just give a big thumbs up to WSA for a nice leap forward in progress and detection...:thumb: :cool: :thumb:
     
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    +1...:thumb:
     
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    I had it disabled. I know of an incompatibility issue between the two on all my other machines. If Appguard is enabled it always disables WSA when WSA attempts to update. I have attempted making exception in Appguard but nothing has worked. I plan on having this fixed in the next build of Appguard. I will be beta testing AG as usual.
     
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    Yes, I've got an incompatibility issue between them as well. My system hangs at the shutdown screen if both are installed and I have to use the power on/off button to restart it. From the few other reports I've seen of this, it only appears to occur with Windows XP.

    Re. the BSOD issue that you are experiencing, I found that I could avoid a BSOD when installing WSA by doing the following: -
    1. Put AppGuard into Install (or Off) mode with the Re-enable checkbox unchecked.
    2. Install WSA then immediately restart the system.
    3. Manually re-enable normal AppGuard protection.
    I found that it wasn't enough to simply disable normal AppGuard protection during the WSA install; protection had to remain disabled throughout the first restart following the install in order to avoid a BSOD. If you haven't already tried this, it might be worth trying.
     
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    I already tried that. This seems to be a problem with only my laptop. The BSOD may be caused by other software installed on my laptop. I know of possibly 4 bugs with WSA right now that I really need to report. As soon as I have time I will. I'm at work on my iPhone now.
     
  20. Legendkiller

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    pls someone tell me how it works?

    B'coz i don't want a av which will keep uploading files to the server for checking and eat into my fixed bandwith quota and also affect browsing.
     
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    Well, it is reported to be actually less that traditional AVs ;)

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=313526
     
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    WSA doesn't upload whole files. What gets uploaded are sets of behavioural characteristics extracted from executable files on your system for checking on the server against known malware. The bandwith used should therefore be less than for a conventional AV which has to regularly download large numbers of malware signatures in order to remain up to date.
     
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    Would it be beneficial for Webroot to have the whole file uploaded?
    With that I mean never before seen files for studying.
    Maybe this could be a option in WSA for people with unlimited bandwidth.

    /E
     
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    If you want to submit a file you can do that manually from within the application, although I believe the preferred method is to open a support ticket in order to get a faster response. Additionally, my understanding is that the malware analysis done on the server is largely automated, so routinely uploading whole files would be of limited value because nobody would be looking at them, quite apart from any privacy issues that could be involved.
     
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    thanks guys for the replies. It has addressed my concerns. :D
     
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