Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by bellgamin, Aug 10, 2020.
Can you elaborate? Is this your reply to post #2274?
The site isnt down... the page loads fine and the file downloads pretty normally for me (2Mb/s) which is a bit slower but not too bad. Also, it still seems to be updating ok...
Not down on this end either. Not even slow.
Sorry folks but not on my end at this time. I was trying it on Wi-Fi connection and cellular, disabling AV, adblockers but all to no avail. I can't get on the website. However it could be somehow related to the time of day because yesterday evening the website worked fine but today morning it's again inaccessible and it repeats regularly.
Meanwhile waiting for comments regarding coexistence with ESET.
Memory Integrity, Smart App Control, WDAG, TPM and Secure Boot all work on the hardware level with hypervisor enforcement.
Your AV and antimalware is a second layer of defence.
OK, thx, understood but it doesn't explain:
Anything that actively scan the system can conflict with each other, but anything that works on RAM or do access control will likely not. It may introduce perf a drop but I don’t know if it has any real-life impact.
So I would say that only ransomware protection and exploit blocker (depending on how they are working) can conflict, the others might not.
Feel free to correct me.
As their website is still unavailable to me I won't install WV. It can be assumed that this could also cause problems with the app updates and that's not worth to me. Moreover when WV doesn't give me anything what ESET don't have. A closed chapter.
Since noon today,
their website is fast and updates happen in time.
No updates for the last 48 hours.
As I understand it, this AV bases its protection primarily on AI/heuristics & machine learning, rather than only signatures. Thus, it doesn't need to update engine or sigs as often....... right?
Your statement is correct. The AI needs far fewer updates than an AV program that works with signatures.
An update, finally.
Interesting that this was blocked by WiseVector, but allowed by Voodooshield.
Probably, a FP by WVSX. The file was blocked several times as shown in the logs.
And here is further proof that it was 4 false positives by WiseVector:
P.S. Times show that the update failures match the WVSX logs.
Hi @ Wilders
My last streaming update for WiseVector was on 13 January 2023. Is this normal?
Of course not. Clearly something has interrupted their normal operations.
Reference my post in #2292
I contacted Wise Vector re lack of streaming updates and their reply is shown below.
This is normal.
For the current version, we are working on a new plan, and no updates will be available until the plan is finalized.
Customer Service Team"
Appreciate your sharing that heads up.
Hmm... I don't like the sound of this, so until their 'new plan' materializes I'm back to BD-Free.
I wouldn't be too worried. Being AI based, WiseVector does not need regular updates. Also they are supposedly going to release new products soon.
WiseVector Free AI Driven Security | Page 113 | MalwareTips Forums
Either they're making adjustments in the current version, for the paid launch. Maybe discussing what it and the free will contain, the price, lots of things . Or, they're in trouble financially and need to get things in order. I'd say they're readying launch of the paid product.
I sure hope my 'gut-feeling' about this is wrong, but it does smack of internal problems.
Having signatures is also helpful. If you've confirmed that something is bad, you should have it in the database forever. You can then use those previous database entries to help your AI and heuristics identify new malware that tries to do more of them same.
Once you identify one RAT you can use that data to identify new ones. Keyloggers? Data-stealers? Other kinds of malware disguised as popular legitimate software? It would be really easy to identify unknown ones as more of the same once you have a few good examples identified.
And now that I've typed that I guess it's good that more antivirus companies are moving away from signature databases and more toward AI and heuristics. I wrote all that off the cuff without thinking.
Regardless, an issue that some people are having with updating...whatever it is you need to update in an AI and heuristics is important to investigate and fix
Separate names with a comma.