Windows Firewall Control (WFC) by BiniSoft.org

Discussion in 'other firewalls' started by alexandrud, May 20, 2013.

  1. Cache

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    Personally I can't see any reason to change, WFC it's fine as it is. It will certainly be interesting to see who bought it though.
     
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    Because eventually, WFC will be integrated in a different security product in the near future... so unless you want a new AV.
     
  3. Buddel

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    Yep, that's why I'm interested in alternatives to WFC. Personally, I couldn't care less who has acquired Binisoft. All I'm interested in is WFC, and this app has ceased to exist with Binisoft's acquisition.
     
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    The point is well taken, however WFC in it's current/even previous versions seem it's still going to be quite an act to follow and/or replace.

    I personally didn't realize how far back this program went until checking early thread timestamps on topic titles.

    It's been educational to follow these discussions over the past many months and especially recent weeks.
     
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    Does anyone know a reasonable method to backup this WFC thread?
    It contains a substantial body of knowledge that I would not want to lose.
     
  8. Velocet

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    Sad to hear that WFC will be integrated in another product but great to hear that you will have a job in integrating it. Best wishes for your future.

    Would be great to open source WFC v5.x so that another developer could take over development.
     
  9. Victek

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    Ceased to exist?
     
  10. JimboW

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    Terrible news. Integrated into another security product means a bloated mess more than likely. This is a sad day indeed. I’ve been using this from day dot, it’s one of the first things I put on a fresh install and one of even sometimes only software running real-time in the tray. It has been invaluable to me. Thanks for such a lightweight and quality software and by far the best one of its kind by a big margin. I hope it continues to work for a long time to come because I for one will miss it. First thing I do is delete all Windows firewall rules let WFC add its minimum ruleset (Windows Update, Time service etc.) set to medium filtering then add WFC to right-click context menu for easy creation of rules. Saved me a lot of time. I guess I’ll be back to doing this manually when the time comes. All the best for the future alexandrud and I hope to still see you around and thanks again for the quality software.


    No need to rush for a replacement guys as it still works for now. It’s a front end for the Windows Firewall so you’ll still get updates from Microsoft lol
     
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    It's not going anywhere, even if Alexandrud decides to not frequent here anymore in favor of their new company's own forums, why would this thread get deleted? The binaries though, you might want to backup the latest of those with the hashes, I can see those poofing over night.
     
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  12. alexandrud

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    The current version is available for download and does work with Windows 7 and more recent versions of Windows. It is a front-end for Windows Firewall, not a firewall by itself. So, it does not need security patches or other updates. If I take a look back in time, in the past years, only few minor features were added to WFC, while the most functionality (handling the firewall rules, connections log, notifications, lock mode, etc) is there since the very first years of development. Basically, WFC had the same features over the past 6 years. So, WFC can be still used for another 6 years, unless Microsoft does not remove the support for Windows Firewall API.

    If WFC would have been open source, the donations would have been even less and WFC would have been way beyond of the current state. Big companies, which have revenues from other sources can afford to invest in open source projects. As a single developer you can't continue to support an open source project indefinitely, so it eventually gets abandoned because you can't make a living just by writing code for free. This really takes a lot of time. You have to pay the rent, the bills, you need a vacation from time to time, etc, things which you can't do without financial resources. Also, nobody is interested to acquire an open source project.
     
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    Is there any planned expiry of existing users been able to continue to activate the product?

    Not sure what the obsession is with companies wanting one big bloated product instead of separate packages for each specific task. The integration doesnt excite me.
     
  14. chrcol

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    Why tho? there is no technical need for updates for this program to work, it doesnt rely on signatures, and is a front end for the underlying windows firewall.

    The only issue I see is if in future the activation function stops working, then of course the program will no longer be useable on new windows installations.
     
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    It may be integrated, but why would that stop you using the existing binaries as standalone?
     
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    Hello

    I was thinking that now that the original project has ended, is it possible to release a free-for-all(all features enabled, read notifications) installer/setup?
    Sort of a parting gift?

    Thank you
     
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    Why would the new owner allow that?
     
  18. alexandrud

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    The existing registered users will be able to activate WFC. The website will not disappear. However, in the future, when the new product will be ready, the new owner may decide to offer only that version.
    I can't decide this. Currently, this is an unanswered question.
     
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    This is absolutely true for small apps like yours, can't argue with that one. So that WFC is acquired now, i thought maybe you are willing to open source a version of the 5.x branch. This would be really great! :)

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    Thanks for all the work that got into WFC! You once gave me a license for free when i had no money. I told my friends to buy WFC (which they did) and also got a customer to buy a license. I can't say how much i appreciate WFC and your work. Thanks again and all the best to you.
     
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    Thank you for your good thoughts. An acquisition means that you give the source code, the domain name, the website content, to the buyer. Since the code is not mine anymore, I can't publish any parts of it to an open source repository.
     
  21. AmigaBoy

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    From what I've gathered, 5.3.0.0 can work fine with Store Apps and Secure Rules enabled, too. You just need to manually check the rules every now and then. For example, when an App tries to auto-update it will fail because its path will change and its new rule will not be allowed by Secure Rules. I can only see this being a hassle if lots of Apps are used and they are regularly updated.

    I'm not sure @ rules are even required, since they seem the same as 'regular' rules, I can't see something special about them except for having the Application Package pre-selected (see manual here).

    Disable Secure Rules (quick shortcut available), open the Store, do a manual update check, re-enable Secure Rules and it should be fine. You will get a WFC notification when an App runs and a regular rule can be created.

    As mentioned, if an App fails to run altogether, just open "Add or remove programs" in Settings, select the App/Advanced Options/Reset. This will make the App work again and automatically re-create its @ rules. Some might create Inbound rules too, but they are usually not necessary (not really sure why they do that, to promote ads/messages etc?).
     
  22. Umbra

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    I know all that.
    main reason: no development = no fixes in case of issues/bugs, no improvements. Simple as that. We will see with the Spring Update.
     
  23. Velocet

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    Maybe you could talk to them and convince them to open source an older version from the 4.x branch? ;)

    I think that this step would make a lot of people very happy.
     
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    What for? No one will use v4 in the presence of v5. Or does no one know about the existence of kg? It is very, very early to bury the WFC, besides, we do not know what will happen next.
    It would be better if a very respected alexandrud did not forget this forum and gave professional advice.
     
  25. Umbra

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    Just learn to create Windows Firewall rules manually; then you won't care much if WFC is dead or alive. i use WFC only because it creates rules faster than me ^^
     
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