Windows 8 - Looks really awsome

Ugh. And they want to force everyone to use this turkey with Secure Boot?

What are they thinking? People will just stop buying new computers.

 

Oh please...
https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1938668&postcount=128

Apparently removing legacy code is now "hilarious and sad", saying that in itself is hilarious and sad to be honest.

 

It's silly to disable Metro when previewing the OS. The major changes mostly revolve around Metro. That doesn't mean it's not bad that Microsoft won't allow users to choose their UI, and I appreciate that on Linux I get to run any of the UIs available regardless of what Canonical packages in.

The way I understood it was that they removed the ability to read the start menu as some programs did. If it's simply removing old code, that's fine. If it's actually preventing users from trying to modify the UI to look like it did, yeah it's hilarious and sad.

I probably just misread that though. Upon further thought it just seems to be that they've gotten rid of that registry/ file tweak.

 

Windows 8 - Looks really awful

Despite a growing debate over the Metro UI not being as intuitive on desktop PCs as it is on tablets, Microsoft doesn't appear to be willing to offer a solution to people who simply prefer the old way of doing things in a desktop environment with its upcoming Windows 8 release.

Microsoft's approach could anger developers and users who prefer the traditional desktop aesthetics over the new full-screen Metro ones, but Microsoft’s main concern is about convincing developers to build Metro-styled applications.

Microsoft already plans on dropping the Aero UI before the RTM builds so there's clearly very little room for any major additional changes before the operating system ships later this year – which means Microsoft will not cave in to the idea of re-incorporating the Start button, Start Menu and parts of the desktop interface.


Neowin.net

Win 8 is either going to be a phenomenal success or a pterodactyl-sized turkey. I wonder which?

 

And, yeah, I think it's a bit soon to be calling the Windows 7 Aero UI "legacy code." I get that it's not the focus but Windows 8 should be viewed as transitional (like Vista.) They should have waited for Windows 9 before forcing the UI entirely.

 

It is legacy code, that's why they've been stripping out Aero elements for the past few weeks.

I think Windows 9 will be quite a bit different, I'd wager Metro apps will return to being desktop apps on the desktop. Resizable, movable, etc.

 

Yeah, people will probably actually buy that.

 

Get the deep fat fryer ready.

 

... & a huge vat of cranberry sauce?

 

That's the way they always play it. Each OS is the greatest ever, until the next one comes out. Then the previous one is a giant ~Phrase removed~ that needs to be replaced.

 

doesn't look like Microsoft is going to compromise on that Metro thing.
and neither am i.

i'm not even gonna download the RP

 

Start Screen looks better than the removed Start Menu.

 

This is why Metro is forced upon them imao.
Microsoft convincing devs to code for the new revenue model called Microsoft Store.
Probably stupified by (hardware-based!) Apple's skyrocketing margins, users and devs are to follow suit towards '7-to-27" Touch-based & Store' apps.
It's pretty much this chart that got us Metro.

 

I knew MS was going to be stubborn about everything. I'm going to pass on this one completely. 7 will be supported for a long time, and there is always linux. No thanks MS.

 

Talking about 'hotdog stand' how gaudy is that:

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-release-preview-to-land-may-31

Microsoft thinks that's modern

 

Windows 8 Release Preview availability to be May 31? I'm going to test Windows 8 for the first time today then.

 

I'll download this one, and the final too before I pass judgement on whether or not I will be upgrading. There may not even be sufficient drivers updates for my laptop. From what I understand AMD will not be releasing updated drivers for the 3870 cards..

 

Every hardware that worked/works with Windows 7 will work with Windows 8.

 

From my understanding AMD will not be releasing Catalyst drivers that are Windows 8 compatible for anything older than the HD 5xxx series, I think. I will see if I can find a link to support that claim.

 

The In-the-box AMD Graphics driver that ships with Windows 8 will include support for the AMD Radeon HD 2000, 3000, and 4000 Series, and it will support the WDDM 1.1 driver level features.

The next versions of AMD Catalyst will only include support for WDDM 1.2 supported products (AMD Radeon HD 5000 and later), doesn't matter if you install then in Windows 7, in Windows 8 or whatever supported OS.

Basically, you lose nothing upgrading to Windows 8 in terms of hardware support. Again: every hardware that worked/works with Windows 7 will work with Windows 8.

 

Here it is: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/GPU119Win8GPUDriverSupport.aspx

I disagree, Microsoft graphic drives are never as full featured as vendor drivers. There will be no CCC (which I hate but there are a lot of setting there not in Microsoft drivers) and from my experience there will be no OpenGL driver included with the Microsoft version.


--Whoops, I didn't see there was a second table at the bottom of the page. Nevermind...

 

Yeah. If you scroll down the page a bit more, you can read:

The following AMD DirectX 10 / 10.1 based graphics products are supported in Microsoft Windows 8 with the use of 1.1 Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM)...

And then you can see your card listed.

 

I'm pretty sure you're right about this. It just goes to show that when you are a monopoly you can call all of the shots.

 

Yes, well, the aesthetic is quite subjective. To M$ it is post-retro, post-postmodern, reductionist cool.

To us it is just horrid, I suppose. I mean, what's with the purple haze & primary school type building blocks look?

 

For those that have been following this more closely, has there been more information about "Windows to Go?" They're supposed to let you install Windows on a USB stick like the Linux live distros.

I'm curious about how they're going to lock it down. Surely you won't be completely free to duplicate it to as many sticks as you want, and I wonder how they'll enforce activation if you're able to carry it around to different PCs. Or will there be some thing about it to discourage people from using it as a substitute for buying another copy of Windows (besides the slower speed of USB flash, of course)?