Windows 8 - Looks really awsome

"And so it goes ... " ~ Kurt Vonnegut, Jr

I got a bit trolled on these very forums once for making exactly this point. It may seem a long time if you are about twelve, but for adults it isn't really a fantastic length of time, even for cyberspace.

 

Yeah, 7 has only been out for what, a bit over 2 years now? That's awfully soon to be pushing out yet another new OS. Especially when 7 has been a relatively large success story....

 

It's almost as if MS are trying to distance themselves from XP & Vista, hoping everyone will forget the longevity of XP & the (perceived) dropped bollock of Vista. My desktop computer is just over a year old, Win 7 64 bit is working well on it. I can't see me upgrading to Win 8 any time soon.

 

I think it´s the tablet thing. MS needs to be in tablets and have only one, cross-platform OS.

 

So... conquering one to damage the other... That's the plan, after all. Sounds a good one.

 

That makes a lot of sense. Although I don't see why they can't concomitantly develop Metro for tablets & phase Win 7 out for desktops more gradually. I suppose it all comes down to economics.

 

If that's 'Plan A': apparently shooting yourself in the foot, I'd hate to think what 'Plan B' is!

 

Gradual change = being left behind while OSX and Unity make drastic changes.

 

Of course, I forgot about that. MS certainly don't want to get themselves left behind, do they?

*He says with a certain sense of typical British irony*

 

Neither can I really. 7 already has all I need and it's still pretty new. There is nothing new in 8 that I want or need (namely Metro). I think 8 is kinda fun to play with, but I don't want to keep it for daily use.

 

Yes... Unity... Linux... great market share... World dominance... Microsoft be affraid.... Unity is your end....

Yes... Mac OS X... I don't know why, but it always makes me think of traffic lights, due to the minimize, maximize and close buttons...

Heck, I don't know for how long OS X (and previous version) have had the traffic lights, but not even they change something so stupid... Mac users seem to like it? I suppose... and why change what people like?

Yes, Microsoft should be affraid of the traffic lights... and the launch bar, by the way...

Heck, I'm looking at this image -http://images.apple.com/macosx/images/overview_launchpad.png and, if I had to be forced to look at something like that every day, I would become depressed.

Granted, Metro looks better than the traffic lights... and what not... Not that good... though...

-edit-

I'm not trying to make fun of the other O.S and their interfaces and all that. Not, at all. I was actually being a bit sarcastic. But, I was just trying to point that there are things that simply work for the users.

Tablets and touch devices = Metro
Desktop, laptops = give the user the good old Desktop as always... because it damn works.

 

I can see Win 7 lasting a long time. No doubt when I buy a better laptop someday, it will have Win 8 on it. Or maybe Win 9 LOL.

 

Yeah, hopefully my laptop here has at least a few more years on it.

 

@Easter: Hang on, you think the time between XP and Win 8 is a short span? I've likely read what you wrote the wrong way (I can hope)..but that's over 10 years. If you want to get upset with fast releases, I'd like to point you in the direction of Linux. I'm not into Metro either though (then again, the whole PC is dead, long live tablets mantra is just stupid to me.) But, to reply to your entire post with one sentence: It's all about profit.

 

If i was looking for some manner of rebuttal it doesn't appear not one exists at all .....yet

I couldn't hoped in an eon of ages to express it as well as you guys have above, i simply marveled at the point-on responses & perfect conclusions.

I especially can relate to the post referring to "Tablets", hmmm when i do it'll have to be Microsoft since i'm XP brainwashed all the way I just happen to be one of those relics where the mere mention of an Apple to me equates to a food on a tree of wood. Lots of users are well fed in that respect.

Seriously, just today i revisted for the first time in a few years, lurked Winmatrix, AquaSoft, and many other fabulous old Windows customize haunts of mine which when we were all still on 98SE, Me, then XP used to be a solid source of New & the most spectacular innovations in existence equipped with well-skilled raw developers with a knack for absolutely perfecting Windows systems from functionality to the most attractive GUI enhancements ever produced since Microsoft. Even today, that trend is as strong as ever, and if you dance about thru some them in your spare time yourself, you'll even find enhancements that make Metro look like it's been in the closet collecting dust.

Point of mine is, like many of you, i still richly appreciate Windows O/S platforms, at least in my case XP which took an atomic detonation to wean me off ole defunct 98. In retrospect & now looking back, i held on way too long. XP of course turned out to be a great platform as well as stable.

Windows 7 now IMO is another example which should be given more attention by Microsoft instead of rolling out yet another O/S practically on the heels of 7.

Is Windows 8 more cleverly crafted for the avergae user as well as business?
Every Bank and nearly every business i been, including the US Post Office in my town is still using & even prefer with determination the XP platform for pitys sake, when they could already updated to 7.

So what will Windows 8 really offer to persuade owners of XP, and Win 7 for that matter to finally upgrade to this new soon to be released system that the others don't already have?

 

Nothing that I can see, except maybe a lot of confusion... But it will be on every new machine sold I guess, so they probably won't be worried about people not upgrading....

 

What does it offer? I mean, if we ignore the UI there's marginally improved security and performance.

 

Thanks Hungry Man

Thats the key word, marginal. Whether marginal or grossly inadequate, the security factor end IMO is never really been such the issue w/Ms so long as PC security makers (marketeers) have always been at the ready to take up the slack. Microsoft O/S's by original design literally formed the mass security software market as it stands today, not to mention spawned a myriad of Third-Party safety developers/developments, most of which are still in use today.

The overriding issue i read most about is been just what you suggested in the performance category. Every new release users are waiting to see what the "performance" results will be, and if theres been a marked improvement in this area alone, notwithstanding new functionalities as well as eyecandy.

Good Point

 

A real overhaul of Windows security would likely take Windows being rebuilt, which just isn't going to happen. The word marginal is not a comforting word when we're talking 100+ dollars and more for Windows 8. The more I keep reading tonight about this "new" OS, the less I care about it really.

 

Agree

However it looks on the surface, system security in whatever Microsoft model releases now and in the future will be a foregone conclusion. I don't think that is the most pressing issue since vendors will continue to lay claim to the system security aspect of windows in whatever style or flavor, and to date most would have to agree, they done a really good job at keeping up with the jones aka:malware,kits,infects, etc.

Harping back to a few posts back, performance should actually equal out pretty well provided that the hardware makers maintain a firm grip on the latest developments in that realm (performance) and apply them generously to support today's newer innovations which are fast becoming more attractive to all.

Microsoft's challenge as i see it, in going forward with Windows 8 is to not only meet the performance & security demands as best they can (vendors no doubt will mostly handle those matters) ...but muster a way to incorporate all these latest new technologies into their O/S's as to try to regain lost momentum that put them in catch up mode to begin with.

So while some of us understandably fret at this decision, yet another MS O/S version to have to think about, and so close on the heels of 7 with even more demands from software vendors, networks, & users alike, i'm of the opinion that 8 is some form of forerunner of something else (Win9) ?

 

Definitely.

It's all about the ~ Pentiums

 

A $100+ wow, that's a bargain. By the time it gets here it will be double that in Sterling, & then some.

 

Oh yeah, lest we forget. Then as always customary with all windows models, the 100+ investment also grants the recipient of that modern most O/S product line the complete satisfaction of receiving MS's famous legendary "PATCHES". Which is another whole beast in itself.

 

Yeah, we mustn't forget the patching 'beast'!

 

Yep... overhaul not going to happen. 8 isn't so bad once you get familiar with it really, but my initial reaction was not good. There really isn't any compelling reason to change to 8 from 7, that's for sure. Although, after using 8 for a while, I could see that there was a general performance improvement over 7, which is pretty amazing. Improved security, I don't know about, I'll have to leave that to the experts like Hungry.

I don't know if waiting for 9 will be any better. It may just be the further evolution of 8 along the same path... This could be where things begin to change in a major way, permanently. Hard to say...