Windows 8 - Looks really awsome

This is pretty much how I see it as it applies to desktops and laptops...

 

After using Windows 8 Consumer Preview for a few hours, I can see how much pain it will cause a novice user. I can't stand metro ui so far.

 

from the article:

well, there's what, 3-4 months left for the Release Candidate?

it's enough time to fix this mess i think.

 

Looks like people really love change

 

There's no sense in liking change for change's sake; the modifications have to suit one's taste for one to be satisfied.

 

There's nothing wrong with change, as long as it means evolving in the right direction. When you change something, and it takes more time to get things done, when you could have it done faster before the change, then it's not changing in the right direction.

If you want to change something, make sure the change will work in favor of the vast majority of users; otherwise it's just a dumb change. That's what happened with Metro... generally speaking.... or not.

 

Actually, I do like change, I get bored with the status quo easily.. However... There's good change, and there's bad change. If they had just left Metro out of it, and continued to develop the OS, it might have been really great. But as I see it, there's simply no need for Metro on a desktop or laptop. That's about it.

 

They do when it is progress or improvement. Not when it isn't either.

 

I'm building up my rant. It's gonna be awesome ... Two weeks.
Mrk

 

Last I checked every OS is moving towards being more touch/tablet friendly. Just look at Unity, the latest GNOME and the OSX 10.8 update.

MS can either stay stale as their share of computing devices continues to be eroded by time or change with the times. Metro may or may not be the right path, but they NEED to change.

 

That's the thing, a laptop/desktop aren't tablets. And, just because someone follows a trend, it doesn't make it be the right one.

I also doubt many people have any touch systems. I know lots of people who won't be buying a tablet, just because it may come with Windows 8 either. I'm one of such people.

I don't think anyone is against any changes, as long as it's in the right direction. Changing for changing - without even weighing the cons and pros - is just plain stupid.

Just because every other person starts wearing pants disclosing their entire (_|_)s, it doesn't mean I should be doing it as well.

I apologize if I've missed such, but I'd rather prefer Microsoft to introduce tabs in Windows Explorer and Office suite. That would be a very welcome change, not the stupid Metro.

-edit-

If they want to have a Metro for tables/touch system, nothing against. They can have it so, while not killing the desktop/laptop Desktop.

 

Personally the only thing I'd change in Windows 8 for Desktop is have the Metro apps open in the desktop environment in their own window (not fullscreen). I like the "glance and go" start screen.

 

Nice. I will look forward to reading that..

 

Exactly...

 

Hahaha same as Chaotic, i'm waiting impatiently

 

Isn't Unity the reason why Ubuntu has dropped from first place at DistroWatch, trailing Mint atm and the development of Gnome3 has led to MATE, Cinnamon and what not.
A large part of the user base simply refuses to accept that the new-cool&being productive must be touch/swipe DE based.
Personally, I'm all for being 0°K cool and uber-productive but that's not going to be by touch 'n swipe for me.

PS. Mrk, as shutting down a PC seems like 'Verboten! du %(^#%*!' all of a sudden, I expect the mother of all rants.

 

from what i could gather, Distrowatch ranking is based on search through their site, not actual users.
someone correct me if i'm wrong.

still, i agree.

there's seem to be a lot of confusion lately in the Linux distros regarding windows/desktop managers and it will take a few months for the dust to settle.

but i'm afraid we're going off topic a bit here.

anyway, i am sure M$ will make quite a few changes to W8 before now and the RC.

 

Windows 8 uses WDDM (Windows Display Driver Model) v1.2 and DXGI (DirectX Graphics Infrastructure) v1.2 to support the new DirectX 11.1. WDDM 1.2 has better performance and reduced memory usage, which should result in higher frame rates for gamers when using a WDDM 1.2 capable driver.

The ATI WDDM 1.2 driver is currently on Windows Update for Windows 8.
No word on the NVidia driver.


More info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Display_Driver_Model#WDDM_1.2
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh404490

 

I've noticed some of your posts rubbishing Ubuntu/Unity. Here's some more "evidence" you can cite to bolster your case for rubbishing Ubuntu/Unity/whatever:
http://royal.pingdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/ubuntu-mint.0022.jpg

It's based on "data" from that most unimpeachable source.

 

The only thing MS needs to do is provide an option at the end of installation that what kind of desktop we would like - metro or normal windows 7
and also add an option in control panel so that we can switch between them if we want
and problem solved

 

That would be nice, but then almost everyone would choose the normal windows 7 desktop instead of the Metro they're trying to force on us..... which would defeat their purpose...

 

Obviously only geeks are moaning about the new Metro GUI, the problem is Windows is for everyone, from zero knowledge to PC experts and the majority of windows users are non-geeks. You cant beat the simplicity of Metro. You boot the PC and Metro presents you with the apps you want to use, one click and you start your browser or whatever, it cant be simpler. Most of my friends install an AV (if any) and use Chrome to chat with Facebook. Im not sure they are going to instal Chrome with Win8, IE is there in Metro, very visible and easy to use (and very very fast btw).

 

It's not about Ubuntu the OS. It's about the Ubuntu choice to go for the Unity DE.
No need to feel hurt vasa1, I only dislike Unity, just as I dislike Gnome3. Not the OS on which Mint (main edition) is build on. (but you already knew that). You like coffee beans, I like mint tea. We both like the water used for it, don't we? (And don't start about it being Ubuntu water or I'll mention it's by and large Debian, lol)

But if you want to 'go creative' on my posts about Unity/Gnome3, feel free to post whatever you want.
Perhaps you can post: 'Baserk obviously hates linux entirely'.

 

Yes, I'm specially thinking that Internet Explorer Metro version is plugin-less.

I suppose it's very usable and convenient to switch between Internet Explorer Metro and Internet Explorer Desktop every single time the user wants to watch a Youtube video, for instance. Very simple indeed.

 

You've got to be kidding, right? I can guarantee you that my mother, an ordinary average, non-geek user, wouldn't have the faintest idea what to do with the new Metro UI. And I don't think anyone else used to the standard desktop will know either. Forcing full screen Metro apps on everyone that look like they were designed for a cell phone is ridiculous. And in general, forcing Metro on everyone is just pure folly. Trust me, it will be the non-geek users who are complaining the most when this hits the streets on new computers...