Windows 8 Certified Computers May Not Be Able To Boot Linux

Actually THIS guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/22/protecting-the-pre-os-environment-with-uefi.aspx

But who can resist a good Microsoft rant eh?

 

Just about no one who's not on Redmond's payroll

 

Okay.

 

When the firmware detects unsigned software, the user will be prompted to enter a password.
Linux distros would nevertheless need to sign both kernel and bootloader.

Grub2 under the GPLv3 licence dictates that the signature keys must be 'open'.
Nasty dilemma. I may switch to Windows. BTW. what does UEFI stand for ?
Nothing to do with Football (UEFA Cup)

 

http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html

 

That seems fairly biased. Yes, it's definitely goign to make dual booting harder... but how are you supposed to make it easy to dual boot but also hard to install rootkits? Microsoft should be focusing on securing THEIR operating system for the average user and not be worrying about other OS's.

 

Note: You can run Linux with UEFI - You have to use the elilo bootloader (instead of lilo or grub) and Linux will run fine!

There is even a Linux that uses UEFI, aka Splashtop.

-- Tom

 

some more intersting stuff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFI

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.ph...Interface#Linux_Kernel_Configuration_for_UEFI

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.ph...Interface#Linux_Kernel_Configuration_for_UEFI

 

This guy sure knows a lot about the "truth"

 

Well then welcome to my world. Come and have a look what the other side looks like. .

Thanks.

 

Very interesting developments going on here. So far, may is the proper word.

 

Hmm...

 

http://www.zdnet.com.au/linux-users-threaten-microsoft-with-accc-339323063.htm

Members of Linux Australia are looking to petition the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC), claiming that Microsoft's behaviour is anti-competitive. They are circulating a form letter addressed to the ACCC in an attempt to press the regulator into action, as well as a step-by-step guide on how to create a new complaint for investigation.

 

If UEFI MoBo's include a "switch off" for it it won't be anticompetitive. I doubt they'll get any ground.

 

Hopefully the manufacturers will see sense here.

 

The Windows logo incentive program will ensure that vendors will comply with Microsoft or they will lose sales. Soon we will all be back to Windows.

http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html

Windows 8 certification requires that hardware ship with UEFI secure boot enabled.
Windows 8 certification does not require that the user be able to disable UEFI secure boot, and we've already been informed by hardware vendors that some hardware will not have this option.
Windows 8 certification does not require that the system ship with any keys other than Microsoft's.
A system that ships with UEFI secure boot enabled and only includes Microsoft's signing keys will only securely boot Microsoft operating systems.

 

one question

let say i bought UEFI secure boot system and i want dual boot with linux

now i can disable UEFI secure boot system as per my hardware vendors option

and now i can install linux in it

but will preinstalled windows 8 work

 

right now this i feel

http://www.duy.im/2011/09/40-cool-and-funny-microsoft-windows.html

http://www.multyshades.com/2011/01/30-funny-anti-microsoft-windows-wallpaper/

sorry its just a joke nothing to take it too seriously

 

Or this one

http://ps3-themes.mawen.at/wall/killed tux.jpg

/child mode off

 

It should.

 

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/why-do-linux-fanatics-want-to-make-windows-8-less-secure/4100

The author "does not own stock or have any other financial interest in Microsoft or any other software company."

If it can stop the rampant piracy of Microsoft products, it maybe a good thing.

 

Lol, the "Linux ecosystem" can kiss my behind. If it secures systems better, it should stay. Forget piracy already, it's not going to be stopped no matter what roadblocks they put in place.

 

I disagree. If it takes away control from the user and transfer it to software or hardware manufacturer, it should disappear. Hopefully, there will be enough motherboard/BIOS manufacturers who will realize that locking their users to a certain OS/software solution is bad, and will give the user the option to disable this "feature".
As for the security, I really don't need someone else to make decisions for me. If someone wants better security he/she should learn about it and implement it, not wait for a providential solution from a hardware manufacturer.

 

Of course it should stay, who the hell cares about obscure little Linux anyways. One world, one religion, one language, my only way or be nuked ye heathens. No need for secure boot to block Linux, most new motherboard BIOS are blocking out Linux by default.