Windows 11 Pro: Install & Setup questions

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  1. Brian K

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    Who is going to provide this tutorial? zapjb has been very specific and clear in the requirements. A paid boot manager is not an option.

    I'd be very interested to read this tutorial too.
     
  2. Raza0007

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    @zapjb, since one of the OS is Windows 11 Pro, you can use the built in Hyper-V to install as many OS's you want as VM's. When you boot your computer, you will be given a choice to boot into whichever OS you want. Each OS is independent from the other and is contained within one VHDX/VHD, so if you want, you can have them all on just a single partition, without causing any issues. And the best thing is that you do not need any paid software or anything else to use this method to triple boot your system.

    If you are interested, there are tutorials on the web, even YouTube video's to guide you step-by-step. I have used Hyper-V to dual boot Windows 10 and Windows 7 in 2015, but have not used it since then.

    Here is an introduction to Hyper-V: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/virtualization/hyper-v-on-windows/about/
     
  3. Brummelchen

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    that is not what i wrote!
    currently win11 21H2 (22000) get updates until 8. Okt. 2024 (EOL, the official 2 years support)
    but machines with 21H2 dont get 22H2 that easy when the components are older and/or win11 installed with tricks.
    so if the candiate here need tricks to install win11 it is very probable that he wont get 23H2 or later.
    my older machine with 21H2 got stuck while other machines already got 22H2.

    official windows 11 cpu requirements list
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/w...pported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors
     
  4. Raza0007

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    @zapjb, this is an addendum to my earlier post#52 where I mentioned about triple booting through Hyper-V. I actually mixed up two different things together. Running a VM under Hyper-V is different from what I was recommending.

    Under Hyper-V, the guest OS runs on top of the host OS, so both OS's run at the same time.

    However, what I was recommending was to install an OS on a virtual hard disk, VHD/VHDX. And then connecting the VHD to the system. Done this way, you only have one OS running at a time. At boot time, you will be given an option to boot into an OS of your choice. You can have multiple VHD's with different OS's connected at the same time. It is much lighter on the system resources, and the OS inside a VHD feels no different than a regular OS. There are some limitations however, mentioned on the following link.

    This is what I did in 2015, but since it has been so long I had forgotten the process and mixed the two different things up. Let me know if you need more clarification.

    See this link for VHD native boot.

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/w...windows-on-a-vhd--native-boot?view=windows-11
     
  5. zapjb

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    Thank you Raza0007. I wish to triple boot the regular way. Considering I have W7P64 already installed. I want to add W11P & Debian 12. But I have no idea how to do this without having W11P overwrite the other OS(s). YEARS ago I dual booted W7P64 & a Linux Distro with a common data partition. That's ideally what I'd like to do but with a triple boot configuration. I forgot almost EVERYTHING about how to do this. So I'm befuddled. Years ago there were accurate & easy to follow YT tutorials on how to dual boot. I can't find anything like that today. Oh and also I have to bypass W11P's hardware requirements as well.
     
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    @zapjb, that is fine. I also have not dual booted in a long time. But I can give you some tips. You will need three separate partitions. Install each OS in its own partition. Ideally, you will start with the most recent OS first. So Win 11 should be installed first, then Win 7 and then Debian. Since you have already installed Win 7 first, install Win 11 in its own partition, and then you may need to use a startup repair utility to ensure Win 7 has a boot entry and boots fine.

    Install each OS normally using a usb flash drive, there is no need to do anything fancy.

    If you create the usb flash drive of Win 11 ISO through Rufus utility, then Rufus has options to bypass Win 11's hardware requirements during the creation of the flash drive. Then just install Win 11 normally.

    Hope this helps.
     
  7. zapjb

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    ALL the Rufus portable versions I've downloaded don't have the Image option selectors available. I wonder if all versions are now missing the bypass hardware requirements option. I can't find the 3.18 beta version anywhere.

    Edit: I found a 3.18 beta version. And it too does not have the Image option. I'm running W7P64 if that makes a difference. I am puzzled.
     
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  8. Brummelchen

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    ****. Guess that means I have to update to Windows 10. Will my hardware be accepted unlike W11? And are there official M$ iso's of W10 around for download.

    Edit: Found Windows Media Creation Tool for W10. Exhausted. I'll come at this another day.
     
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  10. Brummelchen

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    this means that you only can use rufus on win8/10/11. (win8 added)
    this is independent which image you put on stick with rufus.
    a bit late that question because this thread is about your installation of win11
    i am sure you already asked that in another thread, and i answered: no, yours is not win11 compatibel

    https://thinkwiki.de/T540p

    cpu requirements
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/w...pported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors
    and no, no I7-4xxx is listed, no win11 for you the regular way.

    Lenovo win11 compatible T540 systems
    https://support.lenovo.com/om/de/solutions/ht512623-lenovo-devices-supported-for-windows-11
    also no tT40p listed.

    and thus the MCE wont let you install windows 11, you need rufus v4, and no rufus v4 wont run on your windows 7. either you are able to use another method, and there are, or you need someone around you who is capable to do it for you.
     
  11. zapjb

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    Could of sworn there were more posts here. I remember being told I need Rufus v4 & up. Then finding out Rufus 4 doesn't run on W7. Whelp I've got all my files & 2 UFD & will try this on a friends W10/11 PC in a few days.
     
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    Success! Got W11P installed on my Lenovo Thinkpad T540p release date November 2013. Now I want to tweak it to as much like W7 as I can.

    Thanks EVERYONE!

    Then on to triple booting I hope.
     
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