Windows 10 Announced - Released 29-Jul-2015

@EASTER It's like they're using a completely different OS to Windows 10. I can certainly understand peple having privacy concerns, but in terms of performance, I have no complaints.

I have upgraded over 20 computers to Windows 10 so far, and all have worked well after the upgrade. On the main laptop I use, I install new software just about every day, and currently have a few hundred programs installed. In spite of this, Windows 10 is still fast, even though it's a 7 year old laptop.

In my opinion, Windows 10 is the best OS that Microsoft have ever made.

 

As I've stated before, if you have a good working system keep it. I find Windows 10 has very little to offer and many disadvantages. I am more in agreement with what the page Easter linked to has to say. After testing Windows 10 for a couple of months, I find it to be in no way faster than Windows 7 and much slower than any version of Linux. It is a pushy and intrusive OS that is constantly wasting bandwidth. Maybe the users that are on fast connections don't notice this but at 3mbs or less, it is a real problem. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that in visual graphic design terms, it's awful. The biggest issue of all is the lack of control. The forced updates are not trivial. There is no way I am going to give up the granular control over updates in Windows 7 for no control over updates and many other OS features that were formerly under the control of the end user, not Microsoft.

 

Agreed that for Windows 7 users there is little, if any advantage in upgrading to 10. In fact when my customers ask I usually recommend against it saying that they will not perceive a benefit in exchange for the risks involved with the upgrade and the learning curve afterward (which granted is small but people are very intolerant of even the smallest changes). For new system purchases though I do recommend 10. With small modifications, eg Classic Shell, the UI can be made very similar to 7, and a privacy app, such as O&O ShutUp10, can turn off the data mining and recover control over updates.

 

Classic Shell?
Only available in the Professional version I guess?
Or it's a third-party patch?

 

http://classicshell.net/

 

That more or less reflects my experience with trying 10 the past 5 or 6 months. I honestly am at a loss to figure out how Microsoft thinks 10 is going to work for people. IMO, it just isn't. I'm in a position now where I'd ordinarily buy a new pc, but right now, I don't even want to deal with the decisions. My latest thought is if I'm going to buy a new pc, I'd probably want to get one with Win 8.1 on it. I just can't do 10. IMO (again), 10 is a train wreck and the disaster will probably reach critical mass in this coming year. What are we supposed to do when the company that has a monopoly on the industry is putting out garbage (for want of a better word)? Anyway, that's my rant I guess. I think MS is doing everything wrong in 10, and I honestly don't know what they're thinking, and I don't see how in the world it could all possibly work out. It's unbelievable to me... and I don't think I'm alone in that thought. From what I've heard, they are basically going to put out a couple of these November "upgrades" per year. How in the world will that ever work for the public, when "upgrades" are notoriously problematic for a large percentage of the users? All I know is, I don't want to go near 10 for now... and perhaps never.

 

And so that right there (your own satisfied results, and others alike) is exactly what has me totally aghast. As usual the only geniune way of course would be to try it, but frankly from the standpoint to the flood of online and numerous other forum complaints to the contrary, i always have and always will side on caution. If you run the numbers maybe they come back like every other new micro O/S release from the likes of XP to Vista to 8 so on and so forth.

It certainly doesn't look very attractive overall should the volumes of dissatisfied Windows users (especially and also at corporate/commercial level?) continue to mount in such numbers to make many take some serious pause.

After all it does appear as though Windows 10 has indeed been unabashedly rushed through much more rather rapidly then any of it's predeccesors before it? At this point i don't have an informed opinion to offer but more of a concern. There's been new micro o/s release blowbacks before but this one might be the biggest yet. I dunno.

 

EASTER, you could always try an upgrade of your Win 8 to 10 and see how it goes. If it doesn't work out, you can always reinstall 8 via clean install again, and be back where you started. I wouldn't, however, upgrade to 10, and then try to "roll back" to 8 based on what the upgrade saved etc. That could be problematic. However, I upgraded to 10 and tried it since 7/29/15 and I am still able to do a clean install of my Win 7, which activates without any problems. Just a thought. I guess it depends on how many hours you're willing to invest in the experiment.

 

It might be easier/quicker if system image is created before upgrading and then restoring it if necessary. Restore usually takes only few minutes.

 

Yes, that's even easier.

 

I'm gonna try it out on a new lappy as soon as i get around to picking up a new HDD for it. Bought it Amazon used (refurbished) and over half the drive is (Smart Failed) with 1,080 or so fudged sectors Reallocated Sectors. Snappy as can be though but still for best to drop in a fresh hardware and then will try 10 but am not interested at all in jumping so soon to it.

By the way. What in the world ever happened to a Windows 9? Did they forget to count or something? Or is the 8.1 = 9 or 10 = 9?

 

It was done to avoid problems with some old applications which may confuse Windows 9 with Windows 95 or 98.

Why Windows 10 isn't named 9: Windows 95 legacy code?

 

Well, there's that explanation and there's the speculation that Microsoft didn't want to appear to be one version behind Mac OS

 

I find it difficult at best to jump right into this version (if ever) despite it's supposedly better overall, structure?

 

I can't do it either, even after trying for over 5 months now. There's just too much nonsense going on with 10, on all levels... I just can't go there.

 

Have you tried it? If you haven't you could run an insider build in a VM and decide for yourself.

 

No need to at all. Maybe nexy year in 2017 AFTER enough time is elapsed for confidence sakes. Point being is that it's not going to prove any realistic performance improvements (hardware/firmware manages that) and AFAIK from taking inventory to productivity levels i see it offers nothing any better then the current platform of 8 not to mention why repurchase a ton of software all over again just to accommadate it.

 

Does anyone using 10 know of an app (not a Win 10 app) that I can use to import photos from my camera that will let me bypass the Win 10 Photo app completely? I just reinstalled 10 for another look, and last time I remember it seemed like it forced me to use the Win 10 Photo App, which I want to avoid like the plague this time. Any ideas? I also don't think Win 10 will allow me to change the default Photo app to anything but the one that comes with 10. I'm not sure how I can just import photos using a 3rd party app and never have to load the Win 10 Photos App. Thanks for any ideas or suggestions....

 

@Kerodo Picasa has always been a favourite of mine and includes it's own photo import mechanism.

 

Thanks Wild, I will definitely check that out...

 

Ok, I will re-read and try again. I had the impression that I couldn't change it, but perhaps that was because there wasn't any other photo app installed(?)

 

I rarely use a camera these days, but to transfer photos from the phone I connect it via USB, and copy/paste the photos from the File Explorer.

The default photo app can be changed, but it´s possible that Windows 10 will revert the change, so you have to keep changing it.