Windows 10 Announced - Released 29-Jul-2015

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by ronjor, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. xxJackxx

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    You make a good point I had not thought of. Windows 9 could be referred to as Windows 9x as updates are released. That would confuse many.
     
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    Yes! Note that a web installer stub is offered first as an upgrade. If you want to install in a VM look for the links to the 32 and 64 bit ISO files.
     
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    Yes exactly, and some of the posters seem to miss my point. I never said that Win 9 or 10 (or whatever) will be a bad OS. But they obviously did this just to create some buzz (cheap marketing move), while most people know that Win 10 will not be spectacular. They just should have went with Win 9, so that Win 10 (which sounds cooler and like a "milestone") could have been reserved for real cool new features. :)
     
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    Removed Off Topic Posts. Let's Focus Only on Windows 10. Thanks!
     
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    I just finished installing Windows 10 x64 Tech Preview in a VM. Here are a few thoughts/impressions:

    I created the VM with the free VMware Player using an ISO file. Note that VMware Player isn't aware yet of the Tech Preview. I selected Windows 8 64bit when it couldn't identify the OS and that worked just fine. I gave the OS 4 gigs of ram and two cores (don't know how much difference virtual cpu cores make). I didn't watch the clock closely, but I estimate it took about an hour in total - no doubt it would have been faster installed as a host OS. I used an existing Microsoft Account and didn't notice if there was a local account option. The taskbar is transparent. The Start Menu works as expected and the tiles look OK, but as has already been reported they can be unpinned. It is also possible to change the settings so that the OS boots to the full tiled Start Screen instead of the Start Menu. Modern apps run in resizable windows on the desktop as expected, so I don't have to think of them as different from desktop apps and can just focus on their features. The mail app is quite simple so I'll install Windows Live Mail 2012 later (hopefully that will work). I ran Windows Update and there were already a couple of small updates for the OS. Installing and restarting went smoothly. The default desktop wallpaper didn't inspire me, but there are a number of others included and wallpapers can be set to change automatically as in 7 and 8. That's all for now. If I notice anything noteworthy I'll post it. If anyone wants me to check out something just ask :)
     
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    I installed in VMWare. If nobody else had found it yet you can set up a local account under the create new option. If you don't like the flatness of the Windows 8 UI, you're gonna hate this. I'm not crazy about the new start menu. A matter of preference. Not loving the borderless windows either. We'll see.
     
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    Not a fan of the flatness and borderlessness either, but that could change with enough feedback from the testers (I can't imagine it would be too hard to offer a more classic theme) so I'll keep my eyes out. The one thing I'm looking for is to not have to download a bunch of 3rd party software just to make it look the way i want, I mean after all isn't customability the one thing they pushed at the conference? I'd sure hate not to be able to customize it the way I'd like it to look, so they have my feedback already. Other than that Start menu isn't anything to write home about, but it's not horrendous either, so I'm hoping in the first few updates things be offered for at least for testing potential changes and themes
     
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    Maybe they are trying to silence the people that wanted Aero back by removing the window borders. I have a feeling I will need to keep my Stardock subscription active. If Microsoft doesn't give people what they want, Stardock (and others) will do so. Too bad it's necessary. The transparent taskbar looks bad with an opaque start menu. Not a match at all.
     
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    I didn't notice the missing borders at first; it's the Office 2013 look. I too have a WindowBlinds subscription and I trust that Stardock will make it compatible when Windows 10 is RTM, but it would be nice if we didn't have to use WB to get Aero back.
     
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    I actually don't mind the missing windows border, have it installed in vmware workstation 10.3 & it seems to be running ok. Can't find a way to disable the online search & Avast Free & BitDefender AV+ 2015 wont install at all in it which is probably to be expected. The search & task view icons can't be removed from the taskbar & the task view is exactly the same as alt-tab just with add a desktop added.
     
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    Kerodo,

    We are both incorrect. You do have the choice of not using the Win7 type Start Menu.

    I installed Win10 to my SSD (non Microsoft multi-boot). Win10 installed in under 7 minutes (from a UFD). Boot time is 7 seconds which is half my Win8.1 time.

    It's very similar to Win8.1. I've played with floating modern apps but I only use Weather and Maps anyway. I don't use the rest. I haven't worked out how to use multiple Desktops. They sound promising.

    So far so good.
     
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    Do they say when the preview expires? I'm guessing maybe January sometime?
     
  16. Brian K

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    I didn't see an expiry date.
     
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    I just checked (Googled) and apparently it's April 15th next year. So that's pretty good, 6 months of use... Might wait a bit and try it after some initial feedback.
     
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    It will expire on 15 April 2015. You can check by using the following command (in a command prompt):
    slmgr /dlv
     
  19. Brian K

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    The Start Menu looks "almost exactly" like a Win7 menu so it should satisfy those who have been waiting for this menu.

    I just installed the 32-bit Win10 to my 7 year old test computer with hard drives (not SSDs)(came from Dell with WinXP). Install time was 10 minutes (from UFD). Win10 boot time is 25 seconds. I always disable Fast Startup in view of potential data corruption.
     
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    Should I do a custom install or can Windows transfer everything? Anyone have any advice?
     
  21. Brian K

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    I've done two custom installs. Standby and I'll try updating a Win8 OS.
     
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    sportsfan7700,

    The upgrade went well. You will be informed about any incompatible software. Time for the upgrade from Win8.11 on my test computer was 57 minutes (much longer than for a Custom install).
     
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    Excellent news Brian. I'm testing this in Virtualbox
     
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    had to do a custom install. I allowcated 200 gb to the install.
     
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