Windows 10 Announced - Released 29-Jul-2015

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  1. itman

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    Guess I should have further clarified my posting.

    That is in the past I believe if you manually checked for updates on a metered connection, a feature update wouldn't be downloaded. Such is not the case anymore. You have to switch off the metered connection option for non-feature updates to download but, such is not the case for the 1809 feature update.
     
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  2. JRViejo

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    I can confirm that I did not see the previous 1803 Update until I manually checked for updates, then it was downloaded and ready to be installed upon restart. Haven't clicked that button since.

    BTW, that 1803 update took out the laptop's brightness, screen got dim, with no way to manipulate it. The HP Assistant came to the rescue, finding an Intel graphics update, and I was back in business.
     
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  5. Osaban

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    MS pulled the 1809 update completely to avoid lawsuits for lost data, even though I can't imagine anyone with sensitive material not having some form of backup. Copying a document file/folder to another hard drive is the easiest operation even for a layman...
     
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    Yes, most of us here on this forum and others know enough to have backups of our data, but I imagine there are millions of people out there who don't, and some of those people may have accumulated several years worth of documents and pictures etc as they went thru the bi-annual Win 10 upgrades. It's a pretty serious situation really, and that loss of data is something that should never ever happen.

    On a side note, I just today installed 1803 clean, then let it download and install the latest Insider Preview (build 18252 I think), and lo and behold, I did encounter a very bad Edge bug that I had also noticed in 1809 on October 2nd. Some of these bugs are so ridiculous that they should never see the light of day in any 10 release. I have to admit, I have tried now for 3 years to like 10, and I have installed and used every major build, including Insider Builds, and I have reached a point where I just can't do it any more... the quality is so bad. If they would just produce a quality 10 product at MS, then I think I could actually overlook all the privacy nightmare issues and actually use 10. But IMO, the quality keeps getting worse with each release, not the other way around...

    Anyway, 7 works for me now. Fortunately I have several very new and clean images of 7 which I maintain after each month's updates, and when I finish messing with 10, it's always such a huge relief to return to good old 7. :)
     
  7. EASTER

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    Same here. And i'm still trying to like Windows 10 but enough is enough is reaching a tipping point on everything you just mentioned and then some.

    Have begun to secure erase a couple of HDD's and bring 8.1 on those too. Windows 10 is just wasting a lot of time most people don't have to spend on troubleshooting and worse yet, Borked updates/upgrades. :mad:
     
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    Windows 10 version 1809: pay attention to Disk Cleanup settings
    October 9, 2018
    https://www.ghacks.net/2018/10/09/windows-10-version-1809-pay-attention-to-disk-cleanup-settings/
     
  9. xxJackxx

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    Bwahahahahahaha... :argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh:
    I know of nobody personally except for myself that backs up anything. When my phone rings and they ask if I can get their data back, my response is the line above...
     
  10. Seer

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    :rolleyes:
     
  11. itman

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    For anyone using Win 10 Home that is still under any illusions that they are not anything more than a Microsoft "lab rat," this is a must read:
    https://www.computerworld.com/artic...dows-10-and-the-importance-of-being-last.html
     
  12. focus

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    Same here, especially when I've set them up with Macrium and they don't use it.
     
  13. Seer

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    This is just reasoning of a 12 year old child and a bald faced conspiracy theory on the same level as Bigfoot or the aliens. Where are the proofs? Or shall I come up with a better theory?
    Woody has to be the king though. Just look at the image he put up on his homepage. He's having fun with this. His Recuva trick... he does not know jack **** about data recovery. Amateur.
     
  14. Mrkvonic

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    Who's Woody and what this is all about?
    Mrk
     
  15. itman

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    The Computerworld article link I posted above was written by one of their reporters; not Woody.

    Also I believe its fairly obvious to most by now that Microsoft is using the Home vers. of Win 10 for post release beta testing. If there are doubts about that, why is there not an option to delay the Feature upgrade as exists in every other vers. of Win 10?
     
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    Microsoft should start making imaging software.Microsoft backup for the times where we screw up.
     
  17. itman

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    Actually, Win 10 1803 has two file backup utilities as shown in the below screen shot. Assumed that most of the file deletion issues caused by the 1809 upgrade were Home versions, why should Microsoft care to use their own backup software to prevent something like this?

    Win10_Backup.png
     
  18. Seer

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    Exactly. Why should opinion of either of them matter?
    itman, please don't raise red flags. Stick to the facts.
     
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    I've gone over this and beat the drum until blue in the face but I think bears repeating and is-or would have been quite relevant.

    Microsoft already has implemented the PERFECT answer to short term (or long) reliable backup system in Windows 8-CustomRefresh.

    Why did they turn away from that helpful feature and why they didn't include it into Windows 10? That's a question still alive IMHO.

    I just know the thing REFRESH (.WIM) on a Win 8 works flawlessly WITHOUT destroying/deleting User's data etc. It's my opinion they could have easily saved themselves from a lot of additional pushback and/or negative customer dissatisfaction had they included it in Windows 10-just in the event of something as has raised such an issue as this most recent one.

    Plus it only requires running a single command to create-register-and have available a Refresh IMG. Microsoft? Do you read?
     
  20. Mrkvonic

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    Honestly, I have no idea what this is about.
    Mrk
     
  21. Seer

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    It's another discussion on the subject of 1809 deleting user documents.
     
  22. Carver

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    I saw that on the 11:00 news last night
     
  23. bidd

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    Win 10 still includes Fresh Start/Reset (retains personal files) - Revert to previous version and Advanced start-up, plus the Win7 imaging software is still available.

    I personally managed to get 9 systems updated to the new 1809, two Pro and seven Home systems and all are completely fault free, I can confidently say I've never had an issue with any version of Win 10 though I only manage 26 systems all told:)
     
  24. xxJackxx

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    I assume you are asking who this guy is? https://www.askwoody.com/
     
  25. Seer

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    It's not a trivial matter, as I said in another thread, even if a single user is affected.
    But we do not know for a fact yet that Microsoft is responsible. It may be just some click-happy idiots doing their thing. The fact that only the minority is affected is ignored.
    True, pulling off 1809 from the shelf suggested that it's their fault, but as I said that is not, as of yet, established as a fact.
     
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