Win-7 x64: failed to install CTM, RBRX and Keriver !?

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Solarlynx, Dec 27, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    o_Oo_O
    This is not a disaster for me. But I just want to understand why is it so. And to fix if it might be done.

    I've just installed and updated Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on a brand new Lenovo G580, Core i5, 4 GB RAM. Then I tried to install and failed:

    Comodo Time Machine 2.8 - it said "COMODO Time Machine can not initialize operating system information."

    CTM 2.9 - the same issue

    Rollback Rx 9.1 - during installation in the window "Select partitions you would like to protect:" there is no partitions shown. And I can't go on the installation. Or when I make it in a slightly another way it says "The disk free space is too low to install this software" (but system partition 100 GB)

    Keriver 1-Click Restore Free: when activating the Recovery Console it says "The disk0 isn't with a DOS type partitions table!". Then I skipped the activation of the Recovery Console and started to make the first snapshot, it said "FlcSelectPartByLetter failed".

    So how to explain why is it so and how to install anyone of them? I wrote to Rollback and Keriver maybe they will help.

    Thank you.
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2012
  2. Cudni

    Cudni Global Moderator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2009
    Posts:
    6,956
    Location:
    Somethingshire
    check event viewer logs for more messages (review error or info events)
     
  3. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    Could say in more details what logs to check?
     
  4. pandlouk

    pandlouk Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2007
    Posts:
    2,558
    Probably your disk is configured as dynamic. Non of these apps support dynamic disks.

    Panagiotis
     
  5. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    How to check if it is dynamic?
     
  6. pandlouk

    pandlouk Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2007
    Posts:
    2,558
    Go to "computer management" and the select "disk management". It will display the info of your disks.

    Since you said that is a brand new disk, check also if it is gpt or mbr based. I don't think that they support yet, gpt disks.

    Panagiotis
     
  7. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    There is no word of "dynamic disks" in the "Disk Management" so they must be not dynamic. Yes it's gpt. I attached pictures from Computer Management and Paragon below.

    Thank you.
     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited: Dec 28, 2012
  8. pandlouk

    pandlouk Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2007
    Posts:
    2,558
    You are welcome. :)

    With gpt you'll have to wait for their updated versions.

    Panagiotis
     
  9. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    :argh: oh no!

    :mad: oh!

    :'( ...

    :ninja: .

    Sorry, thank you.

    Ok, I'm with imaging anyway.:)

    Windows installation disk even didn't ask me if I want to choose GPT or MBR.

    Am I right that GPT format can't be transformed to MBR and some new mother boards support only GPT? I read about it.
     
  10. pandlouk

    pandlouk Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2007
    Posts:
    2,558
    Sure they can.
    Or you can use hybrid mbr and have the best(or worst :p ) of the two types.
    TerabyteUnlimited's Bootitbm and rEFInd Boot Manager support hybrid mbr.

    Most mobos support both, but you have to choose the default setting uefi only/ uefi + mbr/ mbr only.

    Panagiotis
     
  11. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    Thank you very much.

    First I wait for Keriver or Rollback to answer then I'll try something to do.
     
  12. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    OK, how then I can change my GPT to MBR?
     
  13. pandlouk

    pandlouk Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2007
    Posts:
    2,558
    First step
    Converting a gpt to mbr.
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282793/en-us
    Second step
    Converting windows UEFI Boot to mbr boot.
    http://www.firewing1.com/node/610
    Panagiotis
     
  14. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    Thanks!

    On the first step when I wrote in the command prompt "convert mbr" the DISKPART answered "Virtual Disk Service error: The operation is not allowed on a disk that contains a pagefile volume."

    What should I do?
     
  15. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    OK, I found how to disable the pagefile.
     
  16. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    Now after "convert mbr" it said: "Virtual Disk Service error: The specified disk is not convertible. CDROMs and DVDs are example of disks that are not convertible."

    o_O
     

    Attached Files:

  17. pandlouk

    pandlouk Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2007
    Posts:
    2,558
    Run the cmd from a removable media or from windows recovery environment. In chase it fails even then use a trial of "bootit bm" to convert it to mbr.

    Panagiotis
     
  18. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    Ok, so windows recovery BCD failed with the same message from the Diskpart: "Virtual Disk Service error: The specified disk is not convertible. CDROMs and DVDs are example of disks that are not convertible."

    So I'll see what can do Boot-it-Bare-Metal.
     
  19. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    So I've created and booted from the BIBM disk. Then pressed Edit-Partitions. It shows a picture:

    EFI system partition 100 MiB EFI System
    Microsoft reserved partition 128 MiB GPT Entry
    System 102400 MiB HPFS/NTFS
    Basic data partition 374311 MiB HPFS/NTFS

    I tried to change every partition with "Change Disk Type" to EMBR and MBR and it replied: "Error. Your request is being ignored because EFI Systems required a GPT".

    Could you advise what to do?

    Thank you.
     
  20. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    I've managed do that: deleted the EFI partition using hints here.
    Diskpart failed to convert to mbr.
    Then I used BIBM to change to mbr. Success.
    Windows didn't boot.
    Windows rescue disk refused to work: "~not the same windows".
    Then I used the WinPE Macrium Boot CD. It has option to repair mbr and other stuff. And it restored windows boot keeping mbr.
    Now windows is bootable with mbr. And all the data on both partitions are intact.
     

    Attached Files:

  21. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    Is it ok that first partition is 128 MB, not 100 MB?
     

    Attached Files:

  22. aladdin

    aladdin Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2006
    Posts:
    2,986
    Location:
    Oman
    No bigge. It is from 200 MB to 100 MB. You can get rid of it, if you are not planning to use Windows Ultimate with Bitlocker. It is only required for Bitlocker, which is provided with Windows Ultimate.

    Best regards,
     
  23. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    So now partition 1 is type 83 - Linux type. How to change it to normal mbr?
    I've managed to install Eaz-Fix (almost the same as Rollback). Maybe that's why every second restart of the computer freezes.
     
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2013
  24. AaLF

    AaLF Registered Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2005
    Posts:
    986
    Location:
    Sydney
    Just a comment - are you sure all the updates were installed? Check Control panel > win updates > history.

    My disasters are usually traced back to update failures.
     
  25. Solarlynx

    Solarlynx Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Posts:
    1,913
    Happy New Year everybody!
     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited: Jan 1, 2013
Loading...
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.