WIll you stay with Windows in 2020

Discussion in 'polls' started by emmjay, Feb 4, 2018.

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W7 will be eol, Jan 2020. What option will you choose?

  1. Stay with W7

    18 vote(s)
    15.8%
  2. Move to W8.1

    8 vote(s)
    7.0%
  3. Move to W10

    42 vote(s)
    36.8%
  4. Move to Apple

    7 vote(s)
    6.1%
  5. Move to Chromebook

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  6. Move to Linux

    30 vote(s)
    26.3%
  7. Move to Android

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  8. Other

    7 vote(s)
    6.1%
  1. Osaban

    Osaban Registered Member

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    There are more than 800 million devices running Windows 10, this is an astronomical figure, more than the current population of Europe. I've had XP, Vista, Win 8/8.1, and Win 10 v. 1909 is the latest and greatest. There's been some problems with updates (I personally haven't experienced any with Win 10), but given the large number of users, it is almost impossible to have a perfect system.
     
  2. Minimalist

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    I've moved from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1 before it's EOL. I like it an plan on using it till 2023 - if there will be no hardware problems. After that I will probably switch to Windows 10, hoping that till then MS will improve it.
     
  3. ProTruckDriver

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    Well I thought I would never say this about Windows 10 but I upgraded my two Windows 7 old computers to Windows 10 last week. They are running smoother now since the upgrade. I need TurboTax in 2020 to do my taxes and the software is warning about using Win 7's non support. I would put TurboTax on the Mac but that would mean my Wife would have to use my Big Mac for taxes. No,No,No, I'll pass on that. :argh: She can use the now upgraded Win 10 computer for that. :D

    As for Win 10 I'm still finding my way around on it after using a Mac for over 3 years. I still Love my Mac over Windows as my main computer. :)
     
  4. Page42

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    I will be staying with W7 beyond the EOL date. The real question is, for how long? When will I go?
    Cue The Clash, Should I Stay Or Should I Go?
     
  5. EASTER

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    My thoughts and plan exactly. That is regarding 10 which I tried several times and still not convinced it's anywhere near a dependable product.

    Given theres a new generation running Windows 10 development it may or may not be worth the trouble sooner rather than later.

    As is my Windows 8.1 is been remarkably flawless in operations, security, and overall user friendliness.
     
  6. Freki123

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    Since I got win7 licenses and don;t want to pay for a "new" windows I was forced to upgrade to windows 10 as a gamer. If linux or any other secure OS supports the same amount of games windows does I would drop windows in a heartbeat...
     
  7. Daveski17

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    Well, it's been 2020 for 20 minutes here, and I still run macOS and Ubuntu and still have absolutely no plans to ever use Windows again. :cool:
     
  8. Beyonder

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    Yup same here. But for now, that's a distant dream.
     
  9. Sampei Nihira

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    You can try this:

    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/bypass-windows-7-extended-security-updates-eligibility.80606/page-15
     
  10. Page42

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    Lots of reading on that thread. Mostly what I am seeing as a consensus is the best thing to do now is wait and see if this bypass works after Jan 14, 2020 if and when MS reacts to it. Would you agree? And TY. :thumb:
     
  11. sukarof

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    I have moved to Linux Mint already, but will keep Windows for a couple of games made for windows that Steam (Proton) for Linux cant handle, yet.
     
  12. Sampei Nihira

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    Yes.;)
    Also because you have the possibility to carry out manual updates from the MUC.
    You can download the "Windows embedded PosReady 7" updates and install them directly without any hack like I did on my PC with XP.
    EoS at Oct 12, 2021.
     
  13. Page42

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    SSD (Sorry So Dense)... what is the MUC?
     
  14. Buddel

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    Microsoft Update Catalog
    I didn't know myself, so I asked Dr. Google.:gack:
     
  15. Page42

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    I asked too and all I really came up with was Munich Airport. :confused: TY Buddel.
     
  16. Buddel

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    Maybe you can get updates from Munich Airport, who knows.:D
     
  17. Page42

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    With German translation, I'm all set.
     
  18. Buddel

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    What did you translate into German? MUC? Life would be so easy without abbrev....;)
     
  19. blacknight

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    Not sure to understand :(:

    - after Jan 14, 2020 I'll be able to find future 7 updates in the MUC ?

    - which is the use of Windows embedded PosReady 7 for 7 home premium users ?
     
  20. Sampei Nihira

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    1) It seems so, you can find them even now,the hard part will be to order them:

    https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=Windows+Embedded+Standard+7+2019

    Page 2

    2) You will forgive me but I am not a native English speaker and I have not understood your question well.
     
  21. emmjay

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    When using WSUS, Windows Update Catalog or SCCM or another solution for update distribution, each update checks to determine if the system installing the update is licensed accordingly. Therefore after Jan 14, 2020, I think "MUC" will be looking for the ESU MAK (licensing and activation ID), which is independent of the W7 activation ID in all client and server systems.

    To get W7 updates after Jan 2020, via Microsoft, there is also a list of perquisite updates that are W7 x86 and x64 specific (the monthly rollup must be current or at minimum KB4519976, which is Oct 8,2019), latest SSU and SHA2 (any version 1,2 or 3) and KB4528069. It is unclear if the W7 security only updates meet the criteria, however MS has confirmed that security only updates do meet the criteria if you have MS Virtual Desktop (their expensive cloudy stuff). These clients will receive W7 free ESU through to Jan 2023.

    @Sampei Nihira. I do not understand how 'Windows embedded PosReady 7' is supposed to do what you say. Could you let us in on it?
     
  22. blacknight

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    I'm sorry, English is not the native language for me too :D: simply, I don't understand what is Windows embedded PosReady 7 and why you talked about it.
     
  23. Sampei Nihira

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    I can't answer your question precisely.
    I read these statements by experienced users of W.7
    See Dencorso (MSFN Forum):


    https://msfn.org/board/topic/180582-post-eol-updated-to-windows-7/

    I assume it's due to the fact that Windows Vista users already now install updates without any hack from the MUC "Windows server 2008".
     
  24. Sampei Nihira

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  25. Yuki2718

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    I do not recommend to install the patches for PosReady, the two OSes have little in common. Vista users who for some reason had to continue to use it have been manually applying patches for Windows Server 2008 w/out much trouble except for a few conflicts w/ AV. It's actually no wonder, if you look at pkgproperties.txt inside the msu files you'll find some of them include 'ApplicabilityInfo="Windows Vista SP2;' which means these are 'officially' compatible w/ Vista. For Win7 you should be able to install parts of patches for Windows Server 2008 R2, but ofc not all vuln on Win7 will be covered, and always take backup before updating. If you compare past patches for XP and PosReady 2009 w/ Vista & Server 2008, you'll find many of the former were different while most of the latter were common. The diff btwn Win7 & 2008R2 will be even smaller than Vista & 2008.
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2020
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