Wilders SLOW!!!!!!!!!

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  1. spy1

    spy1 Registered Member

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    Nothing to be sorry for, really - the board is still way slower than it was before the server-change.

    I'm noticing, though, that it's a lot slower at some points than others - to wit:

    Any click on "Wilders Security Forum" (at the upper left of this window - the "tree" ) or clicking the browsers "Back" button always take longer than a move from within a forum that you're already in (IOW, once a particular forum loads, you can move around within it pretty quickly.

    I sincerely hope this "new server" stuff either gets corrected or we go back to the old one, because honestly, this stinks. Pete
     
  2. controler

    controler Guest

    It took 44.196 seconds to load this page.

    I am now starting to wonder if Wilders is doing some special
    IP scans as members come to the start page?
     
  3. spy1

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    If that was supposed to be humor - it wasn't funny. :rolleyes:

    The server change-over (to this point, anyway) has been a complete disaster. Pete
     
  4. Paul Wilders

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    As stated by UNICRON: we are working on it. Fixing the problem - which isn't purely related to the server upgrade btw - will take some time.

    Be assured we will do our upmost to deal with this.

    regards.

    paul
     
  5. Primrose

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    Hang in there Paul you will get it sorted out. ;) I do not mind the wait and I always copy my posts before I post them..you never know when they will end up in the wrong box or lost in transmission. ;)
     
  6. Paul Wilders

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    Thanks John ;)

    regards.

    paul
     
  7. Jooske

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    Noticed before in daytime the site is rather normal speed,
    so i tried several days to be sure.
    It took 16.303 seconds to load this page.
    This was the main index, which normally takes around 22.000 or more certainly in the evening.
    Soooooooooooooo who is taking all that bandwidth?
    Is the hosting service giving preference somewhere else? Wrong configured programs like "wintasks" and the like for the server?
     
  8. Jooske

    Jooske Registered Member

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    See the difference:
    It took 71.917 seconds to load this page. (main index page)
    It took 28.650 seconds to load this page. (this message page)
    It took 27.975 seconds to load this page. (to get the reply page for this)

    and the page is building up really ugly........
     
  9. controler

    controler Guest

    I aggree with Jookse

    During the day 2:42 PM central USA today took DSL


    It took 69.374 seconds to load this page. ( main page )

    This page :It took 1.231 seconds to load this page.
     
  10. MickeyTheMan

    MickeyTheMan Security Expert

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    It took 75.998 seconds to load this page. (main page)
    Sunday morning 11:24 EST
     
  11. discogail

    discogail Security Expert

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    Just now.....
    It took 39.132 seconds to load this page.
     
  12. javacool

    javacool BrightFort Moderator

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    Which I also got a minute ago - but now page loading time has dropped again.

    It took 2.098 seconds to load this page.

    Best regards,

    -Javacool
     
  13. *Ari*

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    I got wilders fast. With 56 k dialup It took 5.581 seconds to load this page. How I did it?
    I used "System Mechanic" feature to tweak bandwidth speed:

    Edit settings manually

    MTU size: 1500
    RWIN; Tcp receive window size: 6432
    Time to Live; TTL: 256
    Enable blackhole detection: yes
    Enable Automatic MTU detection: yes

    Other settings you have to experience how they should be. I used " relative speed test " feature for experiencing the speed, and I was amazed again ! and here is the log :

    Start Test: 16.2.2003 21:55:11
    Test Type: Download 1 megabyte
    Operating System: Windows 98
    -------------Settings Used------------
    Maximum Transfer Unit: 1500
    Tcp Receive Window: 6432
    Time To Live: 256
    Black Hole Detection: True
    Auto-Detect Maximum Transfer Unit: True
    Maximum number of simultaneous HTTP 1.0 Connections: 10
    Maximum number of simultaneous HTTP 1.1 Connections: 10
    Tcp Options: 1 - Window Scaling but no Timestamp Options
    Fast Retransmission and Recovery support value: 2
    Support for Selective Acknowledgements: True
    ---------------------------------------------
    Data Transfer Start: 16.2.2003 21:55:17
    Data Transfer Complete: 16.2.2003 21:55:29
    --->Total Data Received: 1024,51 kilobytes
    --->Time to Complete Transfer: 00:00:11:551
    --->Average Speed: 87,86 kilobytes per second
    --->Peak Speed: 140,74 kilobytes per second

    ^Ari^

    SystemMechanic 30 day trial at : www.iolo.com
     
  14. Paul Wilders

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    Ladies and Gents,

    We are perfectly aware of the board speed issue. Starting say approx. a week from now, we are going to tackle this problem - once and for all (and hopefully with great succes).

    Apologies for this issue for the moment ;)

    regards.

    paul
     
  15. meneer

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    Well, today you seem very fast to me:

    It took 0.355 seconds to load this page

    Perhaps an incident, but I'm happy now :D

    edit:
    fast: the input screen
    forum page a;so quick:
    It took 2.347 seconds to load this page.
     
  16. Mike_Healan

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    You wouldn't be planning on hiring someone to walk behind the server and give it a nudge every so often are you? ;)
     
  17. Pieter_Arntz

    Pieter_Arntz Spyware Veteran

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    We're already doing that, but some relief of duty would be nice. I doze off sometimes. :D
    Hey Mike, is that yours? The one next to it?
    * Evil plan comes to mind
     
  18. eyespy

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    Getting better ! :D
    Average page load this evening was about 10 seconds.

    regards,
    bill :)
     
  19. Randy_Bell

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    At the bottom it says: It took 2.242 seconds to load this page. Also, I'm using Netscape 7.02 (latest version), and I changed my video display from 16-bit to 32-bit color, and everything appears really nice: I'm a happy camper now! :eek: :D :D
     
  20. controler

    controler Guest

    Yep things seem back to , if I could say , normal :D
    See me dancing around my computer?
    I think someone finialy paid the bill he he

    Good job ;)
     
  21. Randy_Bell

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    It took 2.345 seconds to load this page.

    That's what was just displayed: I'm back posting this experiment: IE 5.5 sp2, 33.6K modem -- soooo, Wilders does appear to be getting back to normal, which is great: no offense guys, but for awhile, I was avoiding this site because it was loading pages so slowly.

    (previous post above was Netscape 7.02, DSL modem: different browser, connection speed). :D :D
     
  22. trparky

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    Why is Wilders Security Forum slow? Answer! The YaBBSE code is trash.

    Basically, the code is very very inefficient.

    There is a new forum software soon to be released called ttForum based on YaBBSE's code but has been secured and optimized to the max.

    Want more proof?

    My web host decided to put a proxy server into auto-mode and told it to hit a YaBBSE board with 75 requests at the same time, server loads on the server hosting the YaBBSE board shot up to 4.00 and above. They did the same on a ttForum board and the server load didn't even rise above .25.

    If that isn't enough info to convince you that YaBBSE has bad code, I don't know what else I can tell you.
     
  23. Jooske

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    Ya ya ya, how much do they pay you as a reseller and to spam around?
    I don't need to know, leaving this to the Admins, as well as the technical parts. Could be the host, server, connection, anywhere along the line and all that is in study.
    At times it's really fast, even with many people online, so there are more matters and causes, but as said, all under deep investigation.
    In the meantime see if you can find anything suitable in the TOS. Thanks.
     
  24. trparky

    trparky Registered Member

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    Yea yea yea, but you probably haven't looked at the code of YaBBSE either. All I can say, it is trash.

    <Edited out a bit> There is no need for personal insults. Pieter

    And no, I don't get paid. I am serious here. I don't get one red cent for these posts I have made. Swear to God I don't. Swear on my great-grandparent's graves I don't.
     
  25. Paul Wilders

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    Tom,

    Wrong.

    A matter of opinion. I do agree YaBB isn't coded for big and heavy loading boards. For that reason, we are rather busy at the moment.

    That said: play by the rules over on this board. In case you feel the need to discuss the matter any further, don't hesitate to drop me an email.

    regards.

    paul
     
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