why does avira always do so bad in other tests

Avira is always at the top indeed.
If only there firewall was a bit better and some HIPS would be installed and the suite would be top as well

 

i dun mind the no-hips neither the low quality firewall..i just install pe premium avira av and online armor with it and everything is smooth..the drawback is its lame self-protection.kaspersky got the heads up there..as soon as process is shut the second process restarts kis/kav...and i heard there is a such option in avast as well!i'd love that from avira too and i might even consider migrating!

 

Avira does have self protection. However, it doesn't have a HIPS like self protection such as KAV does.

As far as Avast having any self protection, the only thing I have heard of is an experimental version of it, unless that has changed.

 

Actually the one detection that is giving Avira an edge over all AV is its
PACKER/CRYPTOR DETECTION not heuretics, Nod32 & kaspersky has better heuretics than Avira, I think. It uses 3 detection methods, Nod32,Fsecure & Kaspersky does not currently have it! I think almost all av does not have it except for sophos but a lot less packer/cryptor than Avira.
1)Signature
2)Heuretics
3)Packer/Cryptor Detection
detection of suspicious cryptor / packer (detecting yet unknown malware by the method of informing the user about the unknown / rare / suspicious packer / cryptor or about the fact of multiple packing / crypting. Example: "HEUR/Crypted").
Executables are often packed. Some kinds of packers are specifically used to pack malware so that it won't be detected by your protection. Sometimes, the bad guys use multiple packing as well.
3>2 detection methods, Nod32 ,Kaspersky & the others are outclassed by that theory!!!!!

 

why does kaspersky always get mentioned in an avira thread with certain comparisons, is it fear i see?

lol

 

Are you sure? I packed notepad with upack and uploaded it to virustotal. As you can see the packer detection in Antivir is much less agressive than other programs.


~removed virus total result per site policy....Bubba~

 

I mean you are meaning "Avira vs Sophos" Packer/Cryptor based detection.

Maybe it really depends on the file you uploaded. By the way Virus Total is not the same as the home version, it uses command line scanners, its settings tweak to the max settings even much higher than even the your home av settings, it uses linux too & has really insane level of heuretics & packer/cryptor
based detection.

To answer the previous question that As a kaspersky user meaning that Kaspersky fear Avira actually no because I believe it will soon change When Kaspersky latest version 8 comes out, becuase Kaspersky will introduce packer/cryptor besed detection. So AviRA, users when Kaspersky latest version comes, it will say it
KASPERSKY WILL GIVE AVIRA A "RUN FOR ITS MONEY" & TO QUOTE A POPULAR WRETLER " """""""""""ITS TIME TO PLAY THE GAME""""""""""!!!!!!!!!!!

 

the fear comment, i was thinking was the 'other way around'.

you seem to think kaspersky has poor packer support

 

The funniest malware 'description' from your results, by Ikarus: Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Zlob.and

 

dude..packet cryptor is pretty much like the new "supsicious packer" in v8 of kav/kis thats what he means ..i gotta agree with u tho that kl are pretty professional when it comes to packers as well.but anyways imho it dun really matter that much..the packed malware will have eventually to be unpacked in order to be executed so it still comes back to sig/heur detection.

 

Actually Kaspersky has no packer/cryptor based detection in version 7 according to the official kaspersky forum..
It is just like Nod32 & the rest. Anyway I already know that Kaspersky has much superior signature database & heuretics than Avira. So you can say Avira loses its edge when version 8 comes out. "The begining of the end FOR avira SUPREMACY"

 

'suspicous technology'

to me, this 'still' means "maybe/maybe not" or "basically, we havnt got a clue"

lol

 

arghh i just cant decide which to actually buy....... driving me nuts lol

 

give them all a go, and one will jump out at you that you REALLY like and want to use.

thats why they have trials

 

Wait for KASPERSKY VERSION 8, You can say it will give all the other antivirus companies " a run for their money"

 

can you please provide a link, as i would say KAV already detects files packed with certains packers etc.

 

but isnt that just like saying:

wait for drweb v5 *lol*

or maybe wait for norton 2009?

or maybe, just around the corner at avg 8?

future versions are exactly that, the future.

 

Link below:
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=52718&hl=packer

 

Just try them both before buying. Whichever you choose you won't be dissapointed.

 

yeah, as i thought :/. the 65 files used to "show" what detection methods are used are not way not enough. KAV (and also many others which according to that test do not have packer detection) definitly has packer detection, if a larger set of files would have been scanned, it would be seen. Beside that, not all products give names which you can easily say what kind of detection it is.

 

Kaspersky detects packers via signatures (any detection which starts with "Packed" coincidently!); http://www.kaspersky.com/viruswatchlite?search_virus=packed&x=8&y=6&hour_offset=-3

 

Do I want an AV with a Real-Time monitor (RTM) that allows my computer to be infected, and (afterward) does a good job of cleaning up? No way! I would much prefer to have an AV that PREVENTS infections.

In any event, relying upon an anti-malware program to *clean infections* is old tech. Far far better to regularly image my drives, and then restore a clean image should my AV's RTM fail to prevent the infection.

Meanwhile, back at the topic --- I have yet to see contemporary tests where Avira fared poorly. If there are some, please provide links to those tests -- or one might regard this topic as supposition based on assertion.

 

Probably what is being referred to is the Avira certification level of only "Standard",compared to others of less proactive detection efficiency,who achieved "Advanced"

The reason,which has been discussed,is because of comparatively high level of false positives with Avira.

av-comparatives

~from av-comparatives site...."Please link ONLY to our main site www.av-comparatives.org and not to the other subpages"....Bubba~

 

VT sure uses command line scanners, but not Linux ones, but win32. The settings of all antivirus are individual and chosen by the vendors, not all are in the 'max settings' as you state. Don't speak so convinced about something you don't really know.

 

this was made a long while ago and at that time i did see tests that showed it as doing mediocre not great ... i can not say since then though i have seen a bad test from anywhere so it may be they updated the program or whatever they did but i can honestly say i have not seen a bad score from them since back when this was first posted..i would actually still be using it if it were not so expensive for me..