Why Did Ballmer Throw Nokia Under the Bus? Windows Phone & Lumia Insights from stats

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  1. Pedro

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    Why Did Ballmer Throw Nokia Now Under the Bus? Lets Dig Windows Phone & Lumia Insights from Kantar Stats
    http://communities-dominate.blogs.c...ws-phone-lumia-insights-from-kantar-stat.html

    About the author, it seems Tomi T Ahonen is a former Nokia executive, and a Finn.

    While i initially found the tone on the blog a bit of a rant, i also quickly found that more importantly, he seems to know far more about Nokia than the current CEO, and backs his arguments with numbers and facts.

    I never did understand how one could destroy Nokia's resources like he has. It is mind boggling.
    Teams of engineers building platforms that were far more successful than Windows phone suddenly get replaced by the same. Symbian, aka one of the cash cows, thrown under the bus.

    The blog is an eye opener, backing up our gut feelings with facts, and while his posts are huge, i would suggest them to anyone interested in the mobile market.
    I didnt know about the "Burning Platforms" memo until this blog appeared on my radar. Amazing.
     
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    Nice/interesting/shocking read, thanks Pedro for the link.:)
     
  3. Noob

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    I'll never get tired of saying it, Nokia did not put enough resources into Symbian, instead they got stuck for YEARS with minor updates for it, then when the ship started to sink, they wanted to be exclusive with an OS that NEVER had a chance in the smartphone market, not even vs their already outdated Symbian. o_O

    Their first mistake was abandoning Symbian, second mistake not adopting Android (It never hurts to support multiple platforms "Diversification") and their third catastrophic mistake adopting the worst OS they could possibly choose.
    I don't know what's going through all these executives, supposedly they are there for a reason but it doesn't looks like they have a brain at all, what they were expecting from Microsoft OS, magic? :rolleyes: :D

    And at the end Nokia will have the worst part, Microsoft can still survive if W8 is a major fail but Nokia will have a hard time getting through this.
     
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    Nokia will pick up again. The reason their shares were dropping is mainly due to Symbian dying out for consumers. Soon they will focus on Windows Phone 8 and once implemented, things will start looking good for them again.
     
  5. Pedro

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    The reason Symbian died this fast seems to be a direct consequence of the CEO. The Osborne effect, which Ahonen talks about a lot.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect

    He single handedly destroyed Symbian, a money maker, and bet all on this single phone which was not yet ready at the time. The whole thing is bizarre and dumb. Really dumb.

    Read this June post, from 2011!
    Deluded? Seriously? Can I really honestly claim that Nokia's CEO Stephen Elop is deluded? Unfortunately.. yes.
    Nokia needs to have a future, without Elop and Balmer, maybe with a Windows phone or two (if it actually turns a profit that is), but getting back to Meego/Meltemi or whatever Linux solution they can work with, and Qt. Assess if Symbian is salvageable with the global carriers. Drop this US market only focus.

    This is where their real investment is, their human resources and assets. They need a CEO that can work, and deliver, and fix their product management.
    Not a back room cigar smoking deals type. That seems evident.

    A year ago it was clearly doable, now they probably need to focus alot on delivering a few good phones.
    What a mess.
     
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    Nokia Q2 Results: Bad bad and will be even more bad

    http://communities-dominate.blogs.c...esults-bad-bad-and-will-be-even-more-bad.html
     
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    Not a bright future for Nokia, at least not in the next year or so unless they make REALLY drastic changes. :rolleyes:
     
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    But what do we know about Windows Phone 8 that could improve the situation for Nokia ?
     
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    Digging Deeper into Nokia Q2 Results- exactly how many 'awesome' sales AT&T and China

    Digging Deeper into Nokia Q2 Results - and exactly how many 'awesome' sales was AT&T and China... (Updated)
    more...
     
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    Nokia Reportedly Selling Off Qt
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1MTc

    Nokia's Actions Already Harm Qt 5.0 Release
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1Mjg

    Qt's Lars Knoll: "It's Really Sad To See This Happen"
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1MjU
     
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    Dispatches From The Battlefield - Some Digital Jamboree Notes from various Smartphone Makers
    http://communities-dominate.blogs.c...ree-notes-from-various-smartphone-makers.html

    Meanwhile Samsung is shipping phones with a TV tuner..
     
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    Digia to acquire Qt from Nokia
    http://digia.com/en/Home/Company/News/Digia-to-acquire-Qt-from-Nokia/
    http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/08/09/1340247/digia-to-acquire-qt-from-nokia

    Recall that Digia had already bought Qt "commercial licensing and services business" from Nokia. It was also post Microsoft deal to ship Windows phones.
     
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    Vringo and Nokia Execute Patent Purchase Agreement
    http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...ringo-Nokia-Execute-Patent-Purchase-Agreement

    The desert, a corpse, vultures flying in circles.
     
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    When 2 plus 2 equals less than 2. Thats right, not less than 4, I meant less than 2. The Microsoft Point of View to the Nokia dead-end
    http://communities-dominate.blogs.c...-i-meant-less-than-2-the-microsoft-point.html

    Note: I'm skipping a few posts.
     
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    Open Letter to Nokia Shareholders
    http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/08/open-letter-to-nokia-shareholders.html
     
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    Thanks for all the updates. I'm sure anybody interested in the topic can follow it at the source.
     
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