Why are there so few rollback type softwares?

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  1. twl845

    twl845 Registered Member

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    I have about 18 GB on my primary snapshot. To create a new snapshot takes about a half hour. I copy it to #2 snapshot as needed, about once a week, which takes up to about 15 minutes +/- a few minutes. If I have to restore my primary snapshot, depending what the reason, it could take up to a half hour.
     
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  2. Balatsokas

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    Isn't it Slow when EAZ-FIX/Rollback Rx -type ISRs
    do Snapshot Creation in seconds and Restoration
    -Regardless of Data Size/Amount-
    within 2-3 minutes at most?

    There must be Something else (not Time performance)
    that makes old members preferring FD-ISR over the new ISR software.

    -What really makes FD-ISR so special compared with the new ISR solutions?
     
  3. nanana1

    nanana1 Frequent Poster

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    That's the great mystery ! :p
     
  4. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

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    Regrettably if you don't have the old FD-ISR you can no longer get it.

    What makes it so special. Reliablity, it is fast when you just update snapshots, and especially archives. And the archives themselves. They become part of the back up solution rather then a problem.

    Pete
     
  5. raakii

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    Questions that a fan of fd-isr must answer in order to prove its worth

    1)wat is the space taken by fd-isr to backup a 15 gb partition ?
    I know rollback rx takes atmost 250 mb for baseline creation.

    2) If rollback rx takes maximum of 4 seconds(dunno whether it extends upto a minute) to restore a snapshot.
    Then how do find fd-isr useful as the user above said it takes 10 or more minutes .How come it classifies as Instant recovery??
    If this the case wats the difference a fast restore software like Drive snapshot and fd-isr in restore time.

    3)Does fd-isr solve all problems caused by drive sector problem.
    this cannot be solved by rollback rx but any drive imaging softwrae can.

    4)Many mbr changing software causes extra drivers to load and increasing the boot time by several seconds.
    how does fd-isr deal in this case ?

    5)File synchronization taks up a lot of disk space in case of rollback rx , how does fd-isr fare in this case , pls tell me abt its data anchoring feature.

    6)How does fd-isr deal with imaging software . Rollback rx deals very poorly as normal backup does not restore the contents properly.

    I like Roll back type software but I dont use them as a above user pointed out perfectly that it is definitely a nuisance given the speed of latest disk imaging apps.
     
  6. pandlouk

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    Just Download a 15 days trial and you will understand. It has too many features/implementations to describe and even if we explain them you will not understand unless you see them with your own eyes.
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1293790&postcount=1

    ps. The only product that comes close to the Original FD-ISR is VMware Workstation.

    Panagiotis
     
  7. raakii

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    I have dont have an ntfs partiton to try this , that the main reason I have not tried it yet .

    Why does this software unable to work on fat32 file systems?
     
  8. pandlouk

    pandlouk Registered Member

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    Because it hides/unhides entire OSes (files, folders, the partition security streams, etc.) in other folders and fat32 does not have this ability.

    Instructions for converting your fat32 to ntfs.
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307881

    Panagiotis
     
  9. raakii

    raakii Registered Member

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    Thanks a ton
     
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  10. pandlouk

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    It is a non destructive convertion. Everything will remain the same.
    Before beginning the conversion perform a checkdisk (scan the partition for errors) and a defrag. If your disk is heavily fragmented it can take alot of time to complete the convertion.
    You are welcome. :)

    Panagiotis
     
  11. raakii

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    Done without any probs (as far as i now)........
     
  12. Murderlove

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    To bad that one is not able to buy the product after the trial period :'( :'(
     
  13. Balatsokas

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    First of all, thank you!

    Before I give it a try, I'd like to ask you:

    -Is the new version as durable and effective as the old (legendary) FD-ISR is?

    -Is it faster when taking/restoring Snapshots than the old FD-ISR?
     
  14. pandlouk

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    Actually is as robust as ever if not better.And it works with win 2000,win xp, win xp 64, win vista and win vista 64. You can have 5 totally different OSes on the same partition and FD-ISR is the only program that can provide something like this. ;)

    The speed is the same as before. (a bit faster than the copy/paste of windows)
    Pay attention than only the initial snapshot takes a lot of time. My updates and restores take 1-2 minutes (it depends on how much data is modified).

    ps. Pay attention that this is only an updated version of the old, good, legendary FD-ISR (you cannot buy it nowhere any more). The new simplier version is FD-ISR Rescue

    Panagiotis
     
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  15. Peter2150

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    Actually with the new FDISR-Rescue, you can only have two snapshots total. The primary and Rescue. Thats it.

    Pete
     
  16. Balatsokas

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    From what I've seen up to now, FD-ISR 3.3 (Trial) remains
    Slower than the EAZ-FIX/Rollback Rx-type solutions when Creating/Restoring Snapshots.

    This is important to someone who needs to constantly move Back and Forward
    among dozens -not to say- hundrends of Snapshots
    (testing various AVs, ASs, FWs, HIPS Disk/Registry Cleaners/Defragmenters).

    VMWare's size (>>100MB setup) is huged compared to
    the EAZ-FIX/Rollback Rx-type solutions (installation <90MB).

    -Is there another product that combines
    the -Stabilty/Performance- of FD-ISR
    with
    the -Speed- of EAZ-FIX/Rollback Rx-type solutions?
    I wish it existed...
     
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  17. farmerlee

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    Unfortunately nothing that i know of has the same functionality of the original fd-isr.
    In regards to vmware, virtualbox is one alternative, its a lot smaller but doesn't have all the functionality of vmware. You can only go backwards through the snapshots and once you've gone back anything before that is gone. Its probably the best free way to do testing.
     
  18. raakii

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    none will use fd-isr given the speed of imaging softwares.I tried it is damn slow , even slower than drive backup software.

    Rollback rx \eaz-fix\ ayrecovery is good but i hate mbr clanging softwares in general.
     
  19. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

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    If it's the Rescue version from HDS yes, if it's the version posted in the forum here, no, that isn't a trial. You need the key, and you have to be a registered owner of FDISR to obtain it.

    Pete
     
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