Who Owns Your Face?

Discussion in 'privacy problems' started by ronjor, Jul 5, 2015.

  1. ronjor

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  3. deBoetie

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    Indeed (mine's a pint!).

    There are two problems, both of which will be ignored given the current "climate" of lack of privacy and the corporate wild west.

    The first is that of false positives - the error rates are always going to be big enough that, when comparing with a huge sample of populations or criminals, you're going to be wrongly identified by algorithm, and suffer as a consequence, with no remedy.

    Second is the more general aspect of what a public place is, and who has the right to mine it and keep records of what we do.

    It's no surprise that the consultations broke up because what the corporates want is inimical to constitutional and reasonable rights - but then, money talks.
     
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    http://www.eweek.com/mobile/mastercard-eyes-facial-scans-for-mobile-purchase-security.html
     
  5. Tarnak

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    I do...I won't be using that kind of technology.
     
  6. Reality

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    Nobody should even be asking questions such as this when the answer is so obvious. That they do, shows how far down the slippery slope we are. Anyway, they can shove their "mobile technologies"
     
  7. noone_particular

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    Combine this technology with the selfie craze of many people. Something to think about.
     
  8. Reality

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    self >selfie > selfishness ... here's a close cousin ... the me me me i i i generation > ithis ithat.
     
  9. mirimir

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    Plausible pseudonymity (let alone anonymity) is getting harder to find. Meatspace is becoming a clusterfracked panopticon. There are insecurely networked cameras everywhere. You never know who's looking, and what resources and analytic capabilities they are wielding. Smartphones are pwned, by design. We're left hiding in the shadows online, relying on PCs, trusting our open-source apps and physical security OPSEC. But hey, we're living in wartime ;)
     
  10. deBoetie

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    Appearance in public is going to have to be done on the basis of seeming to be going to a fancy-dress party. Some character with a beard or mask plus hat! Santa in summertime....
     
  11. mirimir

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    Ha ha :)

    But that attracts attention, no? In public, maybe it's best to just act natural, and blend in.
     
  12. Snoop3

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    yeah, thats what i thought. selfie = selfishness
     
  13. Minimalist

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    The selfie as Security 3.0
    http://www.psfk.com/2015/10/mastercard-password-selfie-future-of-security-future-of-passwords.html
     
  14. deBoetie

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    The selfie as Security 3.0.
    What a dreadful article, a kind of infomercial for the truly dreadful. Of course, it's just peachy for the organisations offering it - they have you by the biometrics.
    Pity the poor customer with false positives, false negatives, and above all - non-repudiation.
     
  15. Daveski17

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    Who Owns Your Face? Er, dunno, I don't think mine's worth much anyway lol.
     
  16. hawki

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    Maybe best not to monkey around with selfies, at least if you are a monkey :)

    "Judge says monkey cannot own copyright to famous selfies
    'This is an issue for Congress and the president,' judge says from the bench.

    SAN FRANCISCO—A federal judge on Wednesday said that a monkey that swiped a British nature photographer's camera during an Indonesian jungle shoot and snapped selfies cannot own the intellectual property rights to those handful of pictures.

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/01/judge-says-monkey-cannot-own-copyright-to-famous-selfies/
     
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