What's up with AV-Comparatives

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  1. acr1965

    acr1965 Registered Member

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    They are supposed to have an On-Demand Comparative out this month but nothing yet. I thought their comparatives came out the first week or so of the month.
     
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  3. Atomic_Ed

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    Anyone know if the new Vipre product will be in the new comparitives?
     
  4. The Hammer

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    I doubt they(Sunbelt) would allow it to tested just yet as it's too new.
     
  5. Atomic_Ed

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    Your probably right but is it only me that gets excited to see a promising product like Vipre move along as fast as possible? Maybe it is just me but I really went for thier whole design philosophy with this product and am kind of aanxious to actually try it but currently have a few reservations.

    * Not fully supported under Vista x64 (No Rootkit Detect)
    * No competitive Product upgrade pricing or Discounts
    * No Integrated Firewall with x64 support
    * Not much real world data on its stability or effectiveness (I know its new but lets see some real testing not just a few magazine/website reviews)

    If I were Sunbelt and assuming what I believe of Vipre is correct in that it is a revelotuionary new product, then I would be pushing exposure and testing like crazy right now. For a new product to be reviewed as good as it seems to be thus far, where is the real risk vs the potential rapid growth from the exposure? I mean of course anyone being realistic will understand there will be a few shortcummings found on such a new product but expedient attention by Sunbelt as they are discovered would only serve to bolster the quality of the product and the confidence in the company behind it. I know it would with me. Anyway I sure hope Vipre starts hitting the ground running and if I am right, it has the potential to whiz by the big players very quickly.
     
  6. Arup

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    None of the major AVs that I know support rootkit detection under x64, Avira included. Part of the reason is till now due to its inherent nature and patch guard, x64 OS is not vulnerable to rootkits. As for firewall, thats another issue as x64 firewall can't have HIPS, they have to work their way around it.
     
  7. Flava

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    I belive this time kaspersky and bitdefender will rule.

    Have been spoken to a bitdefender lab and he said that with Build 11.0.15 bitdefender does not detect more then half of samples then it does with the new "Build V11.0.16" so we will see how bitdefender will score with their new Build this time.

    Same with kaspersky their latest Build.

    Let's see and wait now for the test and his latest version of Build of those 2 AV's. :)
     
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    How come? Don't they use the same definitions?
     
  9. Escalader

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    Agreed! Let's wait for the results as speculation is wasted time but fun for some;)

    For me as before I will look at all results not just BD and KAV. I use Nod and Avira so those I need to compare as well.
     
  10. CountryGuy

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    If I recall, the speculation posts ran for about six pages before the last results. I think its part of the fun and tradition... :D
     
  11. Escalader

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    Yep! No doubt! Enjoy!:cool:
     
  12. Flava

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    I really dont know, but even the JottiScan website the owner there told me that from old build to the new build V11.0.16 bitdefender detects alot of more.

    So let's see at the latest av-comp.... test it shows results from build V11.0.15 and it was pretty good and now soon at September lets see with this new build: V11.0.16"
     
  13. bluesprite

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    I thought the latest build is 12.0.10.1? o_O
     
  14. s4u

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    I just think Microsoft will be a surprise
     
  15. lodore

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    same
    shame their isnt any reliable spyware tests to see how good windows defender really is.
    it updates at least 4 times a day. for you have to download the updates manually or wait weeks until they finally appears on windows update.
    link

    its not completely surprising thou since microsoft did hire some antivirus experts.
     
  16. Jin K

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    for me i think KAV and F-Secure
     
  17. s4u

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    This test wasn't that surprising though
    http://www.security.nl/image/1737
     
  18. Firecat

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    Well, I am thinking that there haven't been a lot of posts from IBK in recent days, so I guess he must be really busy with the tests :)
     
  19. Bunkhouse Buck

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    The more things change- the more they remain the same. Regardless of the coming test results (and the highest probability is that they show about the same as what they showed in the last test)- one thing is a near certainty. If your AV tested well, the test is valid. If your AV did not test well, the test is flawed.
     
  20. Medank

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    It is the latest build 12.0 but av-comp.... testing with 3 month old signatures.
    read their FAQ.'
     
  21. CountryGuy

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    Awww, you're taking all of the fun out of it :D
     
  22. vijayind

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    Surprising to me, Avira & Norton 2009 have same score :eek:
    And KIS 2009 is behind , the yellow banner... And MS despite the hype, is same old :D
     
  23. bluesprite

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    That is the case with the Retrospective/ProActive Tests, last of which was in May. It's the On-demand comparative test's turn, which uses latest signatures...
     
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    Looks like kis performed bad in the scanning speed and heuristic detection.
     
  25. CountryGuy

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    Re: What's up with AV-Comparatives?

    Actually, they got burned in heuristics, scan speed, and response. 4's for detection of malware and spyware. Not the best, but certainly not terrible - And better than last time if I recall. I didn't expect it to top the charts, I just want steady improvement.
     
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