What's the problem with Adobe Download Manager?

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  1. Page42

    Page42 Registered Member

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    I see some people don't want to use the Adobe Download Manager when upgrading Adobe Flash Player.
    What is the problem?
    Is it not to be trusted?
    Does it screw up the install?
    What?

    Here is what Adobe has to say about their Download Manager...

     
  2. m00nbl00d

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    I don't know... Whenever I try to download Flash Player with the browser (the main download link), it says Chrome already updates it.... I don't have Chrome. :'( I have Chromium... :blink:

    Jokes aside, when I downloaded Photoshop trial, I downloaded it with ADM. It allows to resume... It did the job. I actually couldn't download Photshop with FDM :'( , so...

    But, if they got issues with ADM... whatever they are... then they also should have with Flash and Reader, no? :doubt:
     
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    Well, I don't have a problem with it, per se. It's just seems to me that a download manager is kind of silly when all you're doing is downloading a couple of ~3MB files (the sizes of the Flash .exe files for IE and plug-in browsers).

    However, the only Adobe products I use are Flash and Photoshop Elements; the former are (very) small downloads and the latter doesn't seem to use Adobe's DLM, anyway. Perhaps it has some utility if one regularly downloads huge files from Adobe. o_O
     
  4. J_L

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    It's an unnecessary piece of ActiveX with potential performance and security issues. Luckily, Firefox extension doesn't exist anymore, probably because Mozilla banned it.
     
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    What performance and security issues exactly?
    It seems like it is designed to make the installation go smoother.
    The fact that it is removed from the system upon reboot would seem to minimize these performance and security issues to which you refer.
     
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    Here's something about an issue with DLM...

    19 February 2010

    http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Security-problems-in-Adobe-s-Download-Manager-935642.html
     
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    I wonder if this suggestion works...

     
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    I did say potential. Whenever there's more added to the browser, the attack surface increases. Plus, a browser without extensions is almost always faster than one with.
     
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    My suggestion is to uninstall Flash using their uninstaller, reboot
    -http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/141/tn_14157.html?promoid=DNRTE-

    and get the new installer at the bottom of this page, works perfectly.
    Nothing EVER gets bundled.
    -http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/support/index.html-

    Bo
     
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    Exactly. That's my reason to not use the Adobe Download Manager.
     
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    The DLM is removed upon reboot.
     
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    Hi Bo
    So you're implying that something is bundled with DLM, other than the Google Toolbar that I was asked about and refused?
    Like what?
     
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    Until it's removed, the issues exist. I doubt everyone reboots after a flash update.
     
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    No. By updating using those links, the new installs are never bundle with
    whats mentioned on your quote. Its easy to update using the links and
    no need to use DLM. I just thought it would be good for you to know
    the links. I always update Flash by using them. I have never used DLM
    so I dont know if only the Google toolbar is bundled with it.

    "I've always distrusted Adobe simply for pushing the Google Toolbar, or
    these days McAfee.

    If I did not explain myself well, sorry, language barrier.

    Bo
     
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    You explained fine, Bo. I didn't understand so well, that's all. :)
    FYI, I followed your advice (and your links) and uninstalled Flash Player.
    Then I reinstalled without using DLM.
    I will probably go that route from now on.
    I mentioned in another thread how easy the updating has been going for me recently.
    I attributed that to using the DLM.
    But I see how simple the process was without it.
    I still haven't seen how terrible it is, but I do agree with J_L that probably not many people reboot after a Flash Player update, so the potential for a problem can exist on their computers for an extended period of time.

    Thanks for the helpful input, as always, Bo. :cool:
     
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    I agree about rebooting. I always do them after uninstalling and installing.

    Bo
     
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    Since I already have and use a download manager (FDM), I can't see any reason in the world for using theirs. Thank heaven (and the appropriate posters, of course) we have direct links to the two installer EXEs, which makes it unnecessary to even browse to their site.
     
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    For me, less is more. I don't want something running in the background doing anything if I can accomplish the same with little or no effort.

    Beyond that, I haven't seen anything from Adobe I like. I use Flash because you cannot surf the web without it. (I know Apple and Steve Jobs and says you can get everything you need/want without it but in my experience, you can't!) Adobe is all about software bloat and based on my philosophy above, they clearly don't fit in that category.

    As for...
    I personally struggle to believe it. I have never seen any Adobe product totally uninstall without manual, user intervention...
     
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