what you think of ubuntu 12.04

Discussion in 'all things UNIX' started by mack_guy911, Apr 28, 2012.

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  1. tlu

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    respectively?
     
  2. vasa1

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    Response? Maybe he edited the question and then responded? It's an e-mail interview.
     
  3. BrandiCandi

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    hmm... very interesting. Thanks for that link!
     
  4. moontan

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    my intent is to switch completely over to Linux.

    i had some reservations about missing specialized Windows apps i use to do graphic arts.
    i had 2 options: restoring a Windows image every time i needed to do some stuff or try WINE or Crossover.

    i am trying out the demo version of Crossover on the latest Ubuntu..
    unfortunately, it's not free like WINE but much easier to use, apparently.

    anyway, it works flawlessly for one of my "can't live without it" app.

    here's one of mine : :)

    http://i.imgur.com/SlRlj.jpg?1
     
  5. Ranget

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    So Ubuntu is Being Powered By Donation ?

    because i think it's a bit Expensive to Keep supporting Old versions for 3 years
     
  6. moontan

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    i don't think that's the biggest source of revenue for the Ubuntu team.

    from what i can see, they generate revenues not only with donations, but the Ubuntu Software Center sells apps where Ubuntu gets a share of every sales.

    Canonical provides training and support for a fees for businesses and institutions.

    lots of governments from different countries are switching to Linux/Ubuntu and i am pretty sure this is probably a good source of revenues as well.

    i'm no expert at all so maybe someone else can chime in as well. :)
     
  7. BlitzenZeus

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    Dual boot using grub, or install each os separately to two different hdds while the other(s) are not connected, then use the bios boot menu which is usually f11 or f12 to pick the booting drive as long as your bios doesn't suck. Depending on the applications a virtual machine might also fill your need, but you need to choose which one you want to make the host operating system. I found wine can be very temperamental depending on what you have to run.

    I prefer each operating system having their own hdd, and I use the bios to choose the booting drive to avoid problems with software bootloaders. I also happen to have a few spare hdds just laying around so it's not a big stretch to throw another one in the case. They usually are not all huge 1TB drives, but way more than enough to hold a os.
     
  8. moontan

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    @ BlitzenZeus:

    tnx a lot for the tips but this stuff is too complicated for me.

    i just spent 2 days trying to learn about MRB, boot managers etc.
    without going anywhere.lol

    like a wise man used to say: "A man's gotta know his limitations". ;)
     
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  9. BlitzenZeus

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    Sometimes you just have to go for it provided you have your information backed up. For example if you have windows on the hdd, boot from the ubuntu cd, and choose to install it will setup a partition for ubuntu, along with setup grub. You can also run the wubi installer inside windows, and it will actually create an entry in the windows bootloader.

    If you already have two hdds, and you see a press f11/f12 for boot menu on your bios you're already half way there. Just put each os on a different drive, you'll have to pick the default booting drive once both are installed, however when you wanted to boot into windows all you would have to do is press the function key, select the correct hdd, and now windows is booting. Just stick your personal files on an ntfs drive/partition that you want accessible by both operating systems.
     
  10. moontan

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    @ Blitzen:

    tnx a lot m8! :thumb:

    i have 2 extra internal hard drives.
    i might just give this a try.

    although, i would prefer to do everything in just 1 OS if i can help it.
     
  11. taytong888

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    Hi mack_guy911,

    I found that the Launcher, i.e. vertical column with apps icons, to be very irritating because it keeps shifting to the right and covers up the 3 Minimize, Maximize and Close buttons on the top left corner of the screen. What a brain dead design!

    However, thanks to you, I discovered the grace of Cinnamon. Now I have Cinnamon-flavoured Ubuntu 12.04 and Linux Mint 12. In 12.04, the task bar of Cinnamon design is horizontal and on the bottom. It would be nice to find a way to make the icons not too close together.

    Cheers!
     
  12. Kerodo

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    I can vouch for the separate drives approach. I used to do that on my desktop, had Win on one hd and Linux on the other, and booted from the bios menu etc. Works great, and it keeps each OS very clean and nice. If you can do this, I think that's the easiest and best approach. Just unplug the win drive while you're installing linux, and plug it back in when you're done....
     
  13. moontan

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    hmmm, why not...

    i was gonna open the computer case soon for it's semi-annual dusting anyway. ;)

    might as well give it a go.
    the BIOS is good to go as far as selecting a boot drive.

    tnx for letting me know about unplugging the drive.
    i'm sure it will help. hahaha! :D
     
  14. Kerodo

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    Yep, good luck.. I think it will go fine. If not, you can always start over and try another approach. :)
     
  15. vasa1

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    Perhaps Ranget could start a thread on that topic and this one could stay with 12.04?
     
  16. moontan

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    right.

    sorry for going off topic.
    once again.:blink:
     
  17. vasa1

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    We're all in it together! BTW, for one who doesn't like rocket science, you're into some adventurous stuff here. My non-rocket-science "solution" to your problems would be a pen-drive (for a dummy's version of imaging) and a friendly neighbor (for the non-Linux stuff since 99% of you-know -what- are you-know-what) :D
     
  18. vasa1

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    Or just a case of RTFM? System, Appearance, Behavior?
     
  19. moontan

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    make sure the trigger is set to "Left Side" and not "Top Left Corner" and/or decrease the sensitivity if need be,

    that's assuming you are using Auto-Hide, of course.
     
  20. moontan

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    well,

    i have been trying this thing for the last 4-5 days, with little sleep in between.

    a few hours ago i decided to test Ubuntu with graphic intensive apps to see how it would fare.

    i installed a game called Osmos which is available for Mac, Windows and Linux as well.

    the game plays smooth in Windows but the frame rate is pretty bad in Ubuntu; i'd say maybe around 20-25 fps.

    i tried with both recommended drivers for my NVIDIA card to see if it was gonna make a difference.
    not really.
    keep in mind this machine is almost 5 years old.

    i decided to test another app: Stellarium.

    in Windows, i get 60 fps.
    in Ubuntu between 20-25 fps.

    maybe someone with a new computer would not see a difference.
    but i just can't take that kind of penalty.

    i'm gonna go back to Win 7 for the time being.
    Mint 13 is coming up soon and Bodhi 2.0 soon after that.
    and Windows 8 RC.

    got more testing to do before i commit to any of those OS.
     
  21. Hungry Man

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    Graphics support on Linux doesn't compare to Windows. DX > OGL and drivers just don't support it very well.

    I keep my games on a Windows partition.
     
  22. moontan

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    i see...

    i think the 2 apps i tested in my post above ran much smoother under Bodhi.
    i will have to re-install Bodhi to confirm this because i can't rely on my memory.
     
  23. mack_guy911

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    as far i know only one way to make unity at bottom is that

    http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html

    indeed cinnamon is great have you tried cinnamon themes they are awesome too
     
  24. BrandiCandi

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    +1 graphics drivers are a huge PITA IMO.
     
  25. BrandiCandi

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    +1, totally agree.
     
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