I have found a use for this topic. How about we coin a phrase to distinguish this even further to know what we can call such an event in the future. I now understand that Malware means any program that makes undesired changes to another program without the users concent. With that being said it can now be branched out into the Anti-spyware catagory with 2 branches.... As such I have given them each names to so that we can classify future occurances of it happening since its a very special case. In the case of Malware that targets Anti-virus or firewall programs you can really say there is not one that is desirable. But some people who wish to use a service that contains Malware that targets Anti-spyware software with an unqestionable notice in place might actually want to install it cause they are not concerned with spyware. 'Till somone comes up with a better name for them of course! LOL! (Anti-Spy Malware) 1. Malware that targets and remove Anti-spyware withOUT user consent. No doubt this is illeagal. (Ad-Stomp Busters) 2. Programs that target and remove Anti-spyware software WITH user consent. *This type might actually become legal. The user basically consents to use this and other such programs that use ads and spyware. He/she feels the benifit of the program or programs outweigh the fact he/she is being recorded for target advertising. To them its just like filling out a survey to mark your trends and try to catch your eye with something that you may even possably wanna buy. Some people could care less if they are being hit with select ads while they download free music, share files, or other such free programs.