What virtual machines have you installed?

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  1. J_L

    J_L Registered Member

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    Just wondering.

    Here's my collection:
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    Just OpenBSD, Win7, WinXP and Slackware :)
     
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    What does av, snx, 2k8r2, kav, and fw mean? Are those security software?

    Why only Windows, and so many of them?
     
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    Linux. Microsoft was so clever to remove raw sockets from windows grrrr
     
  7. J_L

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    Which Linux distributions do you have?
     
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    Does anybody here have a reliable definition of what a virtual machine is and what their purpose is.

    My mental block is caused by too many years as a programmer and this list looks like a list of operating systems.

    Virtual used to imply "non existent" not real...o_O:oops:
     
  13. Mrkvonic

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    Do you mean have installed as have performed install sometime in the past?
    Or have installed as in currently exist in the inventory and used sometimes?
    Mrk
     
  14. Escalader

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    Hi Mrk:

    How are you?

    I am running under (if that is your question)

    Win 7 Ultimate 32bit is this a "virtual" machine? If it is it seems real enough to me!

    I really don't grasp this virtual terminology at all. But then again exposing my flaws in thinking or asking questions that prove this weakness is not new.

    What is this virtual stuff all about?

    Any links?
     
  15. J_L

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    @Escalader: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machines
    There are 3 main software for running virtual machines: VMware, VirtualBox, and Virtual PC. I use VMware Player.
    The OS you're booting into is not a virtual machine, but a physical machine.

    @Mrkvonic: Currently installed. Amount of usage doesn't matter.
     
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    You could also add Citrix Xen VM's to that list. -http://www.citrix.com/lang/English/home.asp
     
  17. Mrkvonic

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    Escalader,

    Virtual machine is a container that allows an operating system running inside to think it's running on a separate host, when it's in fact running on top of another operating system. Some of the virtual hardware is emulated, other parts are exposed directly.

    As to what I have currently installed as virtual machines:
    Windows XP, Windows 7, openSUSE, CentOS, Fedora, Ubuntu.

    Mrk
     
  18. Escalader

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    Mrk:

    Thanks. The terminology is begining to slowly seep in.

    In days of yore in olde times the 2 and 3rd nd generation HW geeks (me) called this approach emulation I think. Or running in compatibility mode. On the 360 mainframes (IBM) we could run all the programs (apps) that had been written for the 1401 series computers and believe me there were thousands of mission critical programs for companies that HAD to run on 360 frames. If they had not had emulation mode IBM would not have sold any 360's and the firm would have gone bankrupt.


    This emulation mode was 100% in chips and made direct use of 360 hw components.

    Now I have W7 64 bit and the only uses I can see for me(100% selfish)

    are

    1) Virtual backups
    2) Testing beta products


    So 2 questions

    1 how do I find which virtual mc I have available right now other than going down the list of tools building in this thread

    FWIW I have this path on my PC

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Citrix\GoToAssist\514 and THIS folder

    Microsoft Application Virtualization Client

    What are these?


    2 for beta testing why not use sandbox technology OR is it the same thingy as a virtual machine?
     
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  19. Mrkvonic

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    Not sure about your first question. Citrix has lots of software, so I don't really know how you got to own that particular bit. As to your second question, testing software sometimes require a complete os. Sandboxing can provide some aspect, but sandboxing is mainly to make software run contained from the os itself. Sandboxing cannot create the environment of a complete and different system from your host os.

    For example, you can sandbox an app on windows, but it would still be running on windows. You can't create an illusion of running linux this way, for that you need virtualization.

    Mrk
     
  20. Escalader

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    Mrk:

    There are those special confusing words we all use. "illusion" .So if I have a new version of say W7 sp3 (none exitent so far) and I want to test it now under W7 sp1 (which I have) the word illusion means to me fake, false, not real but surely we mean it would be simulated under Sp1 that is real but not exactly like if I install it outright and now my entire setup is sp 3.

    I'm not trying to debate at all just learn.

    My first question was fuzzy wording. All I'm trying to find out is do I already own/have virtualization software on my setup.

    As to Citrix I have no idea where that came from... that's:oops:

    For now I'll block it from www since I don't know what it is doing.
     
  21. Serapis

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    Why did you settle for this one? did you use others? how is it better?
     
  22. J_L

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    Virtual PC was too slow, and not as compatible with other OS. I used VMware Player, because it can import XP Mode, and has all the necessary features and speed for free. Never tried VirtualBox, nor do I see the need to.

    @Escalader: Best way to learn is to try it yourself.
     
  23. Serapis

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    Citrix=Xen btw. from researching it I could tell you that Xen is a pointlessly complex software to use than the other solutions with no added benefit. Performance wise its not as efficient in resource uage than say Vbox
     
  24. Mrkvonic

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    Serapis, what you're saying about xen is somewhat incorrect. It may not be suited for home use, but it has its merits in the business environment. However, I do agree about complexity.
    Mrk
     
  25. xxJackxx

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    Not currently using them all on a regular basis but still have copies of them:

    Virtual PC:
    DOS 5.0
    Windows 3.11
    Windows 95
    Windows 98 SE
    Windows Millennium
    Windows NT 4.0 SP6
    Windows 2000
    Windows XP SP3
    Windows Vista SP2
    Windows Server 2003 R2

    VMWare:
    Windows 7 x86 and x64 (for testing)
    Ubuntu Linux 10.10
    Debian Linux 6.0
    Linux Mint 10
     
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