I installed it today and it has been updated to v8.1.00.295, but yesterday freewarefiles.com listed a v184.108.40.2066. Also, on this notebook, which I'm running all freeware progs as an experiment, I also have Windows Defender (default in Vista) and ThreatFire. Given the lack of anti-spyware capabilities inherent in Avira, are these two apps sufficient? I surf safe but my wife probably can't tell the difference between a fish and a phis! Thank You!