What is your security setup these days?

Thanks for the screenshot, Kees! The only thing that bugs me about the current (non-beta) version is the high I/O activity, which I believe is probably responsible for the high - and continuously climbing - page fault count, as well as somewhat high CPU count. I've mentioned before but I see nothing yet that comes even close to SandBoxies impressively low resource usage, although I'm not necessarily suggesting this is a showstopper for me purchasing a DW license. I like so much of what I see in the product and I've always like its developer, Ilya. Can you comment on the beta's resourcce usage, or perhaps it's still too much of a private matter seeing it's still beta? This latter possibility I respect a great deal. Thanks!

 

Well iI have not measured it head to head, but it feels like it. 4MB data read in two hours, with an old hardisk capable of reading/writing 57 MB/sec average, do the math. See pic. With simple Task manager I can't really check CPU usage, but it does not spike CPU usage, I do not care for memory usage. Also CPU can not be measured reliable with windows task manager.

Only virtualisation programs which have an option to use the memory for the sandbox (like Returnil) would be leaner I guess.

 

In my case beta DWPF v3 resource usage is almost the same (maybe a little bit lower than v2.56) as DW v2.56

 

Thank you, Creer! I appreciate it.

 

Because sandboxie intrcepts all changes to the real system and writes it in a sandbox, by design Sandboxie generates a multiple of disk I/O as DefenseWall.

The way the interceptions and handles are implemented by a security program, make XP's task manager an unreliable measurement tool.

Your personel feel of snappyness of the system is a good indication. Real usage benchmarks tell the truth (like start up of a browser, downloading, copying a large amount of data, the response of Outlook when you create, move, send, delete a number of e-mails, frame rates/Ping differences when playing a game).

regards Kees

 

i tried both and DW it's faster

 

maybe you have a isue/conflicts with other security software or you may need to clean your registry

 

Sorry, just caught your replies now, Kees. Thank you as well for the info I use Process explorer for measuring usage. These technical reasons you state are a bit over my head

Yes, this for me is a also a good benchmark indication.

 

not at all here in this end DW is way faster than SB

 

come down dont get upset it is ok,only maybe 1 or 2 seconds it's ok anyway

 

are you making fun of my poor engish comunication?

 

i knew it
back to the topic for now my new set up is very simple
Defensewall and Mbam Pro

 

Not significantly slower, and probably nothing that would bother me too much. It's just that I am a little concerned about DW's high I/O reads and/or writes and high and constantly climbing page faults. This leads me to believe there are potential stabiltity issues with the product. However, I know there are lots of people happily and successfuly using it, so I will most certaily revisit the product again and put it through its paces. Believe it or not and without trying to look like a hero, there is at least 50% reason for me purchasing the license for supporting a lone but dedicated and talented developer. The other reason is I like the product.

BTW, for my current setup:

1. LUA/SRP/SuRun

2. Sandboxie

3. Router

4. Acronis 2009

 

router

zonealarm free

avast free

opendns

noscript,ghostery,adblock,web developer bar in firefox

peguard when surfing only

full back up

 

You are welcome.

 

Real-time
PC Tools Firewall
Microsoft Security Essentials
F-Secure Exploit Shield beta

On-demand
Panda USB Vaccine
Returnil

Browsing
Firefox with LinkExtend, AdblockPlus and Secure Login

Backup
Macrium Reflect free
Syncback free

 

some experiments
runing in my xp2 DefenseWall Personal Firewall and SandBoxie

 

didnt work good with sandboxie so i removed sandboxie and instead add PE Guard

 

Active
Outpost Free 6.5.1
DefenseWall 2.56

On-Demand
HitMan Pro 3.5
Prevx 3.1.1.65
Malwarebytes AntiMalware 1.41

System Hardening
SeconfigXp

Imaging
Macrium Reflect


OpenDNS
Opera10

 

Real-time:
PC Tools Firewall Plus
ThreatFire

On-demand:
Hitman Pro

 

I had same experience. Be interested to see what the V3 is like, though.

 

Real Time
NAV 2010
Outpost Firewall Pro
PowerShadow 2.6
Behind a Router/Firewall
OpenDNS

Backup
Acronis True Image 11

 

REALTIME
ESS 4
MAMUTU
MBAM

ON DEMAND
SAS
HITMAN PRO
SPYWARE BLASTER

BROWSERS
FIREFOX WITH ADBLOCK PLUS
OPERA 10

 

PREVENTION:

- XP Firewall
- COMODO AntiVirus + Defense+
- Sandboxie

DETECTION (On-demand):

- Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware
- SUPERAntiSpyware

CURE:

- COMODO Time Machine (when it is released)
- (Imaging / Backup software) - haven't decided yet

 

ess+malwarebytes realtime
spywareblaster and spybot on demand