What is your security setup these days?

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by dja2k, Dec 15, 2005.

  1. firzen771

    firzen771 Registered Member

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    threatfire alone proably is not nearly going to protect u from a lot of malware.
     
  2. Reimer

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    Windows XP Pro SP3

    LUA + SRP + SuRun 1.2.0.5
    Avira AntiVir Personal
    Sandboxie 3.33.04 beta

    Firefox - Shiretoko w/ Noscript
     
  3. EASTER

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    That's exactly the SuRun version i keep using in spite of all the other newer releases. Just seems to work on XP better for me then any others without any trip ups or issues.

    SandboxIE always a smart decision, great app.
     
  4. Kees1958

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    XP Pro Home PC (behind a router)
    1. limited user with SRP (no execute) of temporary, internet and P2P directories
    2. Malware Defender
    a) registry protection groups are network, startup, my extra startup group
    b) general rule permit execcute, ask on (is deny while running silent mode)
    - load driver/service
    - keboard low level access
    - registry low level access
    - Set system time
    - System shutdown
    c) contained applications (IE7, Iron Portable, Outlook Express, LimeWire), meaning default deny all with selected permits (file, rgistry, other rules) plus prevent those applicationsfrom being accessed by others)
    3. ThreatFire with default custom rules selected
    - host file
    - outbound
    - screensavers
    - one custom rule (warn when old 16 bit/dos related programs start, like ntvdm, format, cmd, regsrvr, etc)

    Have not had it running so light ever before (MD really uses less CPU power, TF V4 only requries 1/3 of CPU cycles of V3). I have tried to combine TF with several classical HIPS (SSM, EQS, D+). Until recently EQS worked together best when looking at number of pop-ups. D+ worked best when looking at protection level. Malware Defender beated both in user firendliness (no pop-ups with my setup) and protection (no intrusion with such a light selection). Off course the contained Application Group really helped to establish this (they run in a tighter than tight movement space, just enough to function with IE7 the fully functional, and Chrome only allowed to download - no from screen execution of applications )

    I call this my "classical HIPS guarded and policy restricted intelligent behavior blocker defense with some internet facing processes in solitary confinement rules" .

    To me this setup makes sense:
    a) simple policy restriction to rule out most problems
    b) General MD rule to protect against the worst threats (also issues not always covered well by ThreatFire, so a nice complimentairy precaution costing close to zero CPU capacity, as shown in Task manager image MalwareDefender and MDservice is nearly zero, I/O's mostly in RAM so doe not delay respons of system)
    c) Intelligent Behaviour blocker dealing with normal windows mechanism (so I don't have to decide) + outbound protection. When an intrusion occurs the blacklist AntiVirus data base is checked (currently VirusBuster)
    d) Internet facing application under high/restricted control of malware defender (solitary confinement rules), because these are my first entry points or application threat gates (your fire wall is your network threatgate guard).


    Cheers Kees


    At picture below. Only TF seems to eat CPU. On line for nearly eight hours, preparing a presentation, doing some e-mail and browsing the web, 10 seconds of TF or 0,04% of CPU capacity waisted to security aps.
     

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  5. Ro4dRuNn3r

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    Hm, i had since 7 years no problem with Malware/Viruses etc. I guess Threatfire is enough. ;) Ok, Windows Defender is on too. :rolleyes:
     
  6. jmonge

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    if you have on high and know how to deal with the pop ups you should be ok:thumb: and this goes for mamutu too:thumb:
     
  7. Ro4dRuNn3r

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    Not on high, but on 4. ;)
     
  8. jmonge

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    cool:thumb:
     
  9. firzen771

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    well even on high, no product is perfect, so no, it is not enough to just use threatfire, especially with threatfires recent problems
     
  10. jmonge

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    i know it is acting kind of strange for some reasono_O
     
  11. jlo

    jlo Registered Member

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    Avast Home
    A-squared antimalware
    Sandboxie for suspicious applications or websites
    Windows Firewall

    Laptop
    Avast Home
    Prevx Edge Paid
    Windows firewall.

    Cheers

    Jlo
     
  12. idbit

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    Same here, 5+ years without incident - very heavy internet use, using only Norton AV that I updated rarely (not recommending this, by the way). Oh yeah, I was religous about using Trusted Sites in IE6. So I "upgrade" to IE7 and my enormous Trusted Site list is gone. Oh well, I figured. Nobody else goes through all that work and they never get viruses! So I quit using Trusted Sites, allowing full javascripts - with only Norton AV to protect me. What do you know, after a couple months, the dreaded Vundo. So now I'm using Firefox with NoScript to block javascripts and still up in the air about what I'll be adding to Avira AV. But that's another topic. My point is, I could be wrong here, but I really think the NoScript plugin for FF is the most underrated and important security app out there. A hundred times easier to use than IE Trusted Sites too.
     
  13. EASTER

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    Forgot to add that added latest new release of Firefox 3!

    I finally am weening away from IE after all these years.
     
  14. cybermachi

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    Hi all,

    good to know security is taken quite seriously here ;)

    iRun:

    - Eset NOD32 with remote admin
    - SAS (auto scheduled to run twice week)
    - MalwareBytes' with protection monitoring on
    - AppDefend
    - All my browsers run sandboxed

    Network Protection:

    - Webwasher Gateway (secure Web)
    - Juniper NS Hardware Firewall
    - OSSEC HIDS (network log, a server, 3 dekstops and the 3 laptops);

    AND of course i make sure Operating system and Browser application are kept up to date, disable unwanted Services.
     
  15. Panpan69

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    Hi guys,

    Here my setup

    -Nod32 3.0.621.0
    -OA trial version (wanted to try before buying)
    -Superantispyware
    -Argente diskcleaner
    -Argente registrycleaner


    What do you think about it ?
    What can you advice me to make my setup stronger.
    Do you think outpost pro is better than OA 3 paid ?

    i'm on vista 32.

    Thanks
     
  16. cybermachi

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    Hi Panpan69

    i see you use nod32, only think with it, i am bit worried now about is its scores on av-test. although i personaly never had any problem with Malware, but it might be due fact that i got Webwasher gateway. i am thinking of upgrading to AVK G-data 2009, its scroes are impressive, better than webwashers itself.
     
  17. MeFer

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    XPSP3 Home

    Active:

    OutpostPro (Only FW)
    Malware Defender
    Avira Prem
    Sandboxie
    KeysScrambler

    On-demand:

    MBAM
    SAS
    Shadow Defender
    Rollback Rx
     
  18. Ed_H

    Ed_H Registered Member

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    Avira Security Suite
    DefenseWall
     
  19. pnbalaji

    pnbalaji Registered Member

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    Windows XP SP3
    Avast Free
    Zonealarm Free
    Superantispyware Pro
    Threatfire Free.
    Malwarebytes Antimalware for on-demand scanning.


    Thanks,
    Balaji.
     
  20. GES/POR

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    I like it alot!

    Tweak it, Blackspear's settings for NOD

    OA is much stronger.

    Anytime
     
  21. Panpan69

    Panpan69 Registered Member

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    Well i listened Cybermarchi and uninstall it to try avast pro is it a good choice ?
    Why eset have today worse results than on the 2.x release (i'm an old nod32 user) ?
    Because we can see a middle result on av-test and av-comparative with not good critices.

    Im a bit confuse on all tests and comparatives cause everything change between 2 different test.
    Then which AV do you advice me (free as much as possible)?

    Ok thanks will buy it then


    Thanks!
     
  22. cybermachi

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    Hi agian, i am not so sure about avast, although i was saying AVK G-DATA suite. but saying that now days having one suite is not all good either. mabe use avast pro, with hips program like threatfire and then use sandboxie for your browser.

    unforurtenlt there is no one right answer.

    as free programs, then try threatfire, sandboxie, mabe Avira personal (i think thats free) antivirus, superantispyware, malwarebytes for ondemand.

    hopefully there is more out there.
     
  23. demonon

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    Enough for who? You heard the man, he has not gotten any problems since 7 years. All these applications we use try to protect us from damaging the computer or your private data. IMO you won't be needing allot to keep you safe on the web. I think a Windows user only need 3 things really; a firewall, a system image and backups just in case and an up-to-date system or preferably use something with less vulnerabilities.
     
  24. GES/POR

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  25. illicit

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    Hopefully he has some other on demand scanners to verify this. One program in place for 7 yrs without any checks & balances, is not security, IMO.
     
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