Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by dja2k, Dec 15, 2005.
i have hitmanpro as ondemand scaner
i want to try crystal security
avast! Free Antivirus 8.0.1489
SpyShelter Personal Free 8.5.1
Windows 8 32 bit - Win FW + NoScript + SmartScreen with a little self control from clicking away anything and everything on a web is enough for me.
after a good talk with windows_security, I realized that I have a very little knowledge for HIPS.
since a little knowledge is dangerous thing, so I decide to stop using HIPS for the foreseeable future.
But..., can't you learn about it? I also don't know much about HIPS but I decided to try them anyway. Some of them provide help files to give you a better understanding about their features. Besides, many HIPS nowadays are dumbed-down so you won't see many popups from Windows' processes and common 3rd party programs. Well, I know you're the final judge, so forgive me if I sound patronizing.
thanks for the advice
if I do have time, I will choose to learn safe admin setup
the lazzy set up is always welcome
I added Sandboxie. Browsers in CIS sandbox are sometimes unstable. Moreover I like the autodelete of SBIE. Curious thing: EMET doesn't protect Sandboxied browsers though it covers them in CIS sandbox.
maybe this is an explanation.
@jmonge, lazy indeed
Thanx for the hint but explorer cannot run.
After 2 yrs of Emsisoft Security Pack on this old Dell laptop I decided to move on w/G Data Antivirus 2014...Always liked G Data and this version is no different...Feel very internet safe w/ this set-up...
Running avast free, sandboxie and UAC
Im running all "sensitive" apps through sandboxie (chrome, thunderbird, WMP, adobe reader)
im going for a as streamlined, secured and popup agnostic setup as i can.
My question now to you guys is, is this enough?
Removed ERP for the time being and enabled NOD32 HIPS (Interactive mode) the rest is the same in my sig
XP Home SP3
Router and Windows Firewall
System Restore OFF
Firefox - Google SSL
Opera - Google SSL
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
System: AppLocker + UAC (Always Notify) + EMET + Windows Firewall Control
Real-time: Qihoo 360 Internet Security 2013 + Sandboxie
Backup: AX64 Time Machine + SkyDrive
Browser: Palemoon + Ghostery + Adblock Plus + HTTPS Everywhere + LastPass
Removed: NoScript & DuckDuck Go Plus
IMO, that's enough even for high risk users.
Hi Solarlynx, do you have any compatibility issues between cis and EMET 4?
On my PC with Win7 x32 - EMET at max settings with - no problems at all.
On my PC with Win7 x64 - after several attempts I figured out that with EMET at "custom" (DEP optout and some other tunning) - or maybe by some other mysterious reason - EMET and CIS get along quite well
On both PC CIS is in max (HIPS from Clear to Paranoid, AutoSandbox - FV or OFF, Custom, verbouse alerts etc)
@solarlynx, did you use CIS sanbox + sandboxie in the same time?
Thanks for the info I had problems with CIS and EMET but I may try again and see if I can get them to place nice this time.
Out of curiosity I've just tried to make my browser run in both - it runs only in SBIE.
SBIE beats both EMET and CIS on my PC. LOL.
You are welcome.
Honestly, I'm surprised that this time EMET is OK for the whole week on my Win-7 x64 with CIS. At all previous attempts it took a couple of hours that CIS or even OS became laggish or irresponsive with EMET.
BTW I don't know if it'll help you, now the settings for EMET on my PC with Win-7 x64:
Early warning - off
Skin - Emet dark style (lol)
DEP, SEHOP - OptOut
ASLR - OptIn
Certificate trust (pinning) - disabled
Default action - stop on exploit (obviously)
Mitigation settings - (Deep hooks etc) - all three unchecked
I didn't cover any system process in the apps list
EMET 4.0 protect my chrome browser and I'm using sandboxie 4.05.02 paid to sandbox chrome
I wonder why it didn't work out for you, maybe you should report it on sandboxie forum