Indeed. And MalwareBytes Free excellent for files over (I thought it was 32MB?) Also they appear to be using ShadowDefender, so if they're in Shadow Mode even if they install malicious software they're a reboot away from remedying the problem. And I would hope they have a backup/imaging regimen too, as most every Wilders members does have in place these days I'd imagine. But then again with no outbound control the damage could already be done by then... sensitive info. leaked out. I definitely agree with you on the need/want for outbound control.