What is your security setup these days?

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by dja2k, Dec 15, 2005.

  1. Dubslap

    Dubslap Registered Member

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    Thanks Rad, yea i heard some people get lucky and others dont. I formated my pc yesterday had nothing on it apart from mbam pro & bitdefender, i only get the security windows updates nothing else but when ever i ran ccleaner my pc would freeze i couldent open task manager, open system tray i had to do a forced reboot and that was with exclusions in mbam pro and bitdefender. So now i have turned of mbam pro after a 2nd format just to be safe.

    Bitdefender AV Plus
    Windows Firewall Block in/outbound

    Chrome w/ Adblock (Disabled Javascript, Click to play)

    MBAM on demand
     
  2. NSG001

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    Emsisoft Internet Security
    The one i keep coming back to :)

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  3. Kees1958

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    These are classic programs :thumb: , did you allready have licenses for ProcesGuard and Regdefend?
     
  4. Fuzzfas

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    After a period of complete paranoia, once back in Wilders, i am back to AV-less configuration.

    TinyWall, NVT Radar Exe Pro, WinPatrol Plus, ExeWatch

    On Demand: MBAM Free, Hitman Pro, Emsisoft Emergency Kit, McAfee Stinger, Panda Cloud Cleaner.

    The PC FLIES. I hope i will be able to counteract the contageous Wilders' paranoia and keep it AV-less. In the worst case, i will install Comodo instead of Tinywall and NVT.

    Even Avast with 2 shields, does have a little of drag. When browsing quickly through folders, you see the difference without AV.
     
  5. bo elam

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    I certainly see and hear the difference in my computers because I dont use a real time antivirus. I use to hear noises coming out of the PC, that stopped when I quit using real timers.

    An important benefit that I get out of not using an antivirus is my stress level is lower because I don't have to deal with upgrades or updates that can go wrong. To me, not having to deal with that is a huge benefit.

    Bo
     
  6. DanL

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    Kaspersky IS 2013 with all settings pushed to max security.
    Really like the new "safe banking" app in KIS.

    Used ESET for many years but switched about 2 years ago.

    MBAM Pro with KIS and MBAM both added to each others exclusions.

    On demand:

    Hitman Pro
    SAS Pro
    Windows defender
     
  7. Antarctica

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    L'n'S
    WSA
    NVT EXE Radar Pro

    On demand:
    MBAM Pro
     
  8. kjdemuth

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    No deep freeze?
     
  9. jmonge

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    Emsisoft Internet Security = top notch
     
  10. kjdemuth

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    What do you think about this.....
    NVT pro (lock down), WSA AV and sandboxie.
    WSA AV has a built in firewall ( don't trust it too much).
    NVT pro protects things from executing, sandboxie protects the browers and USB's and WSA catches (hopefully) malware and keyloggers etc...
     
  11. NSG001

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    Noises eh?
    Now all you hear is footsteps in the sand :D
     
  12. jmonge

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    my friend NVT pro protects things from executing and also protects USB and other stuff:),also lockdown feature to protect your browser
     
  13. Fuzzfas

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    It may sound weird, but it could be his HDD. In my PC, if i use headphones and i play a short wmv file that i have shot myself and has no audio, if i raise the volume i can hear a high pitch sound. Either the HDD platters or some electric interference from the HDD spinning anyway.
     
  14. The Red Moon

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    Only sound i hear is the fan which can be very annoying.:mad:
     
  15. bo elam

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    Thats right. Now I hear nothing coming out from the inside. Very, very quite..:)

    Machines don't cry no more.

    Bo
     
  16. luciddream

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    I concur with bo. After I dropped the real-time AV my machine was unquestionably quieter. It's not mystery really... you have something perpetually chewing on your HD combing through files. That will make it noisier. Not to mention with a lighter all around footprint, the temperature of your machine will stay cooler, and therefore your fan doesn't have to run as hard/fast to cool it down.

    My machine is certainly quieter now than it was back when I installed a ton of security apps, and had all those services/processes running that come with a default windows install. I know it will increase the life of my hardware too.

    All of that is really just icing on the cake too. The reason I did it was to decrease my attack surface and speed up my box... both of those objectives were obtained too.

    And with my VT Hash Check/Download Statusbar method, along with sandboxed removable drives/USB ports, and disabled autorun/Shell Hardware Detection... there is now no con to not running a real-time AV for me. The benefit it provided me is now covered by other means.
     
  17. luciddream

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    IMHO... it is just too much real-time scanning. I would either just use the entire CIS suite (with the AV), or go with 1 real-time AV only. I see a lot of people that use MBAM Pro + another real-time AV, and I just personally think it's too much.

    Agree on EMET... not to mention here on XP I simply won't put .NET Framework on my box. It drastically decreases the responsiveness of my PC. Then EMET makes it even worse. I decrease my attack surface by disabling otherwise vulnerable services to begin with, not using Java, and keeping what I do have patched. I've yet to be compromised by an exploit in all my years as an end user, so I won't hold myself hostage with a sluggish box being paranoid over it.

    Agree with the merits of D+ over UAC... no contest.

    Is Zemana really needed with D+, SBIE, and your hardened FF+addons?

    A few too many FF extensions too IMHO. You can disable referrers in about:config. With your ABP subs + CS Lite, Ghostery is pretty redundant. Browser Protect is rendered pretty moot with SBIE.

    I'm not sure how those hosts lists compare to what you'd get with ABP sub lists, but either way, using too many/big of such lists will slow browsing down. I'd go with ABP's EasyList, EasyPrivacy, & Malware Domains only. Antisocial optional if you're like me and don't use Facebook/Twitter and get irritated by every site asking you to link everything you ever do to them.

    If/when you ever get your chained VPN solution up and running, Peerblock will become redundant too, IMO.
     
  18. ams963

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    Nice setup. I'd add Hitman Pro. And what imaging app do you use?
     
  19. ams963

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    You're absolutely right J.:thumb:
     
  20. ams963

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    Ow tell me about it.:rolleyes: The swirling noise makes want to throw away the damn pc.:mad:
     
  21. luciddream

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    With D+ I'd say WinPatrol, or another anti-ex, like ERP would be overlap. And with SBIE & D+ I really don't think you need AppGuard.

    Do not track me, I don't think is needed anymore with the option in FF (Privacy tab) "Tell websites I do not want to be tracked". Also due to the way FF handles flash cookies like any other cookie now Better Privacy is obsolete... and they even admit it on their site. I also don't think Beef Taco is needed with everything else you have.

    Good on demand scanners. I see you have VT Hash Check too. Comodo Cleaning Essentials is another you may want to look at. And Kaspersky TDSS Killer for rootkit detection. I'd switch MBAM to on demand only, per my last post and stick to 1 real-time antivirus/malware. If it were me, I'd just use the whole CIS suite since you're already using the FW/D+. Very little footprint will be added and no chance of conflict.

    This is all JMHO... you asked for it ; )
     
  22. THESAWISFAMILY2005

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    Bitdefender windows 8 security=180 days
    Malwarebytes free
    Emisisoft free
    Hitman pro also free

    any tips on security setup
     
  23. happyyarou666

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    well and thats what where here for to exchange oppinions and gain experience in the process , thanks for it , so lemme add some back :D


    first your right about CIS, problem is ive actually tried it out , but its still pretty much buggy as ive mentioned over at the CIS 2013 release thread , so im waiting till the official release channel releases version 6 aka i can upgrade through my comodo firewall to 6, you know why cause i wanna keep ALL my current firewall settings and d+ settings, since i dont know how to transfer all my current settings form my d+ and fw to a new CIS6 setup , maybe my dream of free perfect all around protection , will become reality , hell if they have that sandbox polished , i might as well get rid of sandboxie then too

    ok then no winpatrol or appguard for me then , thanks mad my decision easier on that one , and well gona go and remove some redundant extensions i guess then , lols , you do what you can to keep up i guess , just sometimes its all just too much of everything from all sides


    gona switch mbam to on demand then as well , should i like completely just use it on demand or let it run with file protection active?, l


    and yes zemana is VERY important it twarts every hardware or software keyloggers while running your OS it protects from much more than that go and have a specs read up you will be pretty suprised, and i use neos safekeys for safe measure

    and no i dont recommend getting Kaspersky TDSS Killer , heard about people fn up theyre entire setup with that evil app


    beef taco and do not track me , do not track me , for real ? , ok you da boss , and no more beef tacos as well , damn they was tasty, lols, gona keep hostsman thou , its pretty convenient , updates your hosts with additional blocking


    p.s: about peerblock , yes im currently working my ass off to get my chained solution up and running , pain in the ass i tell ya :rolleyes:, then i suppose ill get rid of peerblock , not sure why thou , doesnt seem to be that useless or am i missing something?


    ovin dat input so far keep it comin

    btw ive been checkin out this k9 app and it seems to be mostly just to stop kids from surfin porn ,lols , and regular web traffic protection, nothing you cant have with cis or just the fw from
    comodo imo


    and at all the guys complaining about theyre swirling and crackling fans and pcs , i hardly suspect any software being the fault , guys , how bout making a quieter build , selecting cheap high 3500 rpm fans isnt always the right way, using soundproof isolation works wonders as well ;) , not to mention when your mechanical hdd is making loud noises , thats not normal and means it most likely is at the lower end of its life expectancy rate ;) aka go and get a new one
     
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  24. luciddream

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    I'm glad I saw you actually disagree with a few things I said (i.e. Zemana), because for awhile there I thought you were blindly doing everything I said... and that's never a good idea. lol. You are the best judge of what's best for you.

    I meant to use the full CIS of v5, not 6. I'd also wait awhile on 6, even well after it's available via updating in the program. I actually have no intention of ever upgrading to 6. I have a feeling 5.10/5.12 will go down as a legacy app with a small cult-like following eventually, similar to that version of Kerio FW (that eludes me). And if someone could tweak it to remove the sandbox & cloud scanning components, and TVL... it'd really be pimp. I saw someone banged out a "Lite" version, but unfortunately it's not the type of "lite" I'm looking for.

    D+ provides file protection too. Not sure how MBAM does it though, or how they compare. I recommend looking at Chiron's guide for Comodo to utilize the "Protect All Files" tweak. If it were me I'd use MBAM on demand only. The free version actually.

    There have been several threads about why Peerblock is just kinda like lipstick on pigs, or paint over rust if you have a good VPN solution already. If you get your setup up & running how you like, why take the chance that some 3'rd party product is ruining it all and diming you out... whether accidentally or with malicious intent. I feel the same way about the web scanning of AV's "listening in" on ports. There's an old saying... something like: "if you don't want the enemy to know which tent the emperor is staying in, don't post a guard by the door." or something to that effect. The (somewhat lame, admittedly) analogy is about attack surface. Just my 2 cents.

    TDSS Killer... yep, if you don't know what you're deleting it can seriously screw things up. To me, that's the sign of a GOOD rootkit remover, not a bad one, lol. It means it can find anything. But the end user must know what they're doing. GMER is another example of this.

    You certainly are talking to the right person to get your nested VPN solution up and running in Mirmir. If you don't mind me asking, what VPN's are you looking at?
     
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  25. luciddream

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    But if you're using the same exact hardware before & after making the tweaks, it's proof that those tweaks are what made the difference. No question my box runs quieter without a real-time AV, and with only 8-9 services running instead of the 30+ that are out of the box. My hard drive and fan are both quieter without question.

    And my box is so used to running like this now that I think if I threw Avast with all shields active on there or something it'd curse at me... maybe even catch on fire.
     
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