What is your security setup these days?

Yeah I know I don't need WSA with EISP. I love both WSA and EISP. I had them take freedom on separate machines. But I just wanted to try out both together. Just wanted to see if that special magic happens. If they fall in love! If they don't like each other I'll put them in separate pcs again. No prob.

 

It only denies inbound traffic. It has no outbound control. Unless you get an advanced control program. Windows also doesn't stealth your ports. It might be light but not very effective.

 

Outbound control is over rated. It's basically for parinoid people. Anyone who is anyone should be behind a router with NAT. If malware is trying to call home then it's already to late cause your still infected. Unless you like to see pop ups asking you daily "xyz.exe is trying to connect. Do you want to allow or block it?" That makes people feel protected but honestly it's rather annoying. Why run another porcess when everything you need is built into your OS. There is even a great guide in this forum for configuring Windows Firewall.

 

it is not overrated my friend and you are not paranoid if you have outbound protection especially when getting infected with a keylogger trying to tranfer your data or personal info to the internet

 

You're right J.

 

Missing the point. The keylogger is already in so the damage is done. And it is called being parinoid. Why do you think that Windows 7 firewall is the tip choice in this forum? I don't live my life parinoid.

 

Outbound isn't overrated or paranoid. How are some folks going to be behind a router with NAT if their on a public wifi. Saying that it's overrated or for the paranoid is ignorant. If you do become infected and it's calling home, any good firewall should be popping up. Most firewall's don't have pop ups at all. I'm not sure what firewall you've been using but majority are quiet. I'd rather run 3rd party software firewall and know that I'm protected properly. I have 4gb of memory on my laptop. I'm not really worried about 2 process running at 4mb. Not only do most firewalls provide outbound protection, port stealthing and packet inspection but most have either BB or HIPS. Why would I want to add an additional process for a BB or HIPS when its already integrated in my firewall?

 

"Outbound control is over rated'

I see your point if you are already infected "BUT"

a lot of programs you have running on your system
may be calling home and I mean main stream programs that
should not be calling home or whatever else they may be contacting
the internet for, they haven't got any business doing it and a good
outbound control can put a stop to it

 

So what if a program I installed such as Ashampoo wants to call home. I have nothing to hide. Once again your statement proves my point about bring parinoid. It's like all this do not track stuff.

 

The keylogger may be in the system but if it's not able to connect out it's not able to perform it's job. So you're speaking for all of the users on Wilders? Which poll did you perform that said that Windows firewall is "tip choice"? It's a personal decision to use a software firewall. I'm not paranoid just comfortable knowing that I'm being protected no matter where I go.

 

Your setup proves parinoia. Who needs a HIPS and a BB together? Plus Sandboxie and K-9? Why even use your pc then? Enjoy the Internet. Don't fear it. Your config is great but holy cows relax.

 

I'm not paranoid. I'm careful. Since I do a lot of my banking and shopping on-line, I like to know that I'm protected. I'm not sure how you can judge someone by looking at their sig but I guess you're that good. My system runs rather smoothly and fast, thanks for being concerned. I do enjoy the internet. I enjoy because that I know that not a whole lot is going to compromise my system.

 

I get free credit monitoring via my company. They use Lifelock. So I am not worried. There are over a million financial transactions per day online. If getting a keylogger was so easy then the entire world would be suffering from identity theft.

 

Yes, exactly. Presumably these programs are just trying to check for updates, but I don't know for sure what they're doing, or transmitting. I block them, not only for safety, but it speeds things up by saving your bandwidth not having everything on your box perpetually phoning home.

Also, outbound control, app filtering (i.e. HIPS), and things like Keyscambler can render Keyloggers completely ineffective even if they manage to get onto your system. Of course, for that to happen, first it'd have to elude Hitman Pro's detection, then all 42 vendors at VT, then escape my sandbox, dupe my SRP/exe. control, terminate CIS, then enter my administrator password to elevate my privileges to get around my LUA. and then...

ah, heck, point conceded... I'm paranoid.

 

MRG proved KeyScrambler is ineffective. I use BitDefenders Safe Pay sometimes. Most my bills are auto pay.

 

LOL. Luciddream that's a tight fit for malware to squeeze through.

 

I'm using what's in my sig. I absolutely love this setup. Light and strong.

 

very strong and powerfull and fast and effective

 

That combination is possible because someone on this forum is using it.
You need to install kaspersky first and then WSA.

 

Windows7 firewall does stealth your ports as ive tested it myself several times.
Although stealthing isnt really necessary to make you more secure.

 

Hahahaha it's also because my desktop currently is quite messed up, i have tons of programs installed, i'm planning to format it when my order for the CPU arrives . . .
I ordered an Intel Q8200 from eBay.
Also ordered a WD Velociraptor 300GB and 4GB of ram.
I'm planning to extend my current desktop usage for another 5 years or so.

 

trying out geswall free i hope they update this wonderfull software cause is very powerfull and it fast
note:i removed kaspersky internet security suite cause it was making youtube videos very slow

 

""So what if a program I installed such as Ashampoo wants to call home. I have nothing to hide. Once again your statement proves my point about bring parinoid.""

Maybe I just don't want them calling home
THAT'S MY CHOICE
not the writer of the program
or let's put it another way
I'M MAKING IT MY CHOICE

As far as I'm concerned this is part of a good firewall's job
and if it is not up to the task then bye, bye it goes

I just removed a program because they introduce a firewall
into it but it happily let things right through it
so now I'm back to Look'nStop which does a great job

 

Geswall is awesome

 

Geswall is a nice sandbox