What happens when subscription expires?

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  1. Howard Kaikow

    Howard Kaikow Registered Member

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    With NAV, when a subscription expires, although one cannot get any more virus definition updates, one can still get program updates,at least while that version of NAV is still supported.

    What is the subscription policy of other AV products?

    I've gotten the impression that McAfee cuts you off at the knees, i.e., once the subscription expires you cannot continue to get program updates for that version of the software.
     
  2. bigc73542

    bigc73542 Retired Moderator

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    With most AV's when the subscription is up the updates all stop.;)
     
  3. Howard Kaikow

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    But "most" is not "all".

    Which do not stop?
     
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    Sorry I can't tell you. when the subscription expires I renew so I can still get the new defs.and stay protected
     
  5. RejZoR

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    No, there are 2 types of subscriptions. One that disables entire AV when license expires and the second one that just stops AV from ubdating but keeps the scan engine active (though with old signatures).
    Can't say for sure which applies to which product.
     
  6. jmschwartz

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    Hello,

    Isn't there a third type, too:

    One which automatically renews your subscription (via credit card) unless you specifically tell them not to (I'm thinking of NAV for individual subscribers)?
     
  7. RejZoR

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    Yeah, that one is new in NAV2006. Dirty way to keep customers locked to NAV imo.
     
  8. jmschwartz

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    Agreed.

    I had a challenging time trying to deactivate the "convenient" renewal feature. :D
     
  9. unhappy_viewer

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    At least its safer than letting customers run an AV without an updated definition database.
     
  10. jmschwartz

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    Agreed.

    Wow, I'm in an agreeable mood for a Monday. :D
     
  11. pilotart

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    I was a nine year user of NAV, subscription was $3 per annum for years.

    Now, if you shop, you can often find a fresh, new box of Norton for Far Less than their Subscription Price. :)

    NSW 2003 would always give you another year's subscription if you reloaded your OS, (suffered a Sony VAIO with three Formats in one year).

    Then got a new Dell D800 and it gave me another year, but after WinXP's SP2, I bought NSW 2005 and ran one year.

    January, removed the NAV from NSW and now am much happier with AntiVir.

    Have had to block Norton's "LiveUpdate" with ZoneAlarm, it keeps trying to load the latest Definitions to a Long Expired
    Non-Existant NAV, and since it can't, it just keeps trying and trying.

    I could also remove "LiveUpdate" but plan to let it run every few months in the event that Norton has updates for the other Norton Programs and Utilities that I still enjoy using (like 'Speed Disk')

    WinFax Pro is the best, not to mention the older versions of Partition Magic and CleanSweep and I could never survive without GoBack. :)
     
  12. Howard Kaikow

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    Ayup, i've never renewed a subscription. It has always been less expensive to purchase another NAV at retail AFTER rebates.

    THis thread was intended to find out what happens with program updates when a subscription expires. NAV allows program updates.

    What other AV programs allow program updates AFTER a subscription expires?
     
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    I also agree. ;)
     
  15. mercurie

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    I do not agree. No AV software should be on auto pilot. At least once a week or so take a look and make sure things are updating properly. Now a days most AV companies do everything but ring your door bell to remind you it's time to renew. :D
     
  16. unhappy_viewer

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    And do you expect the elderly folks to know how to get a new AV or renew? A lot of them just like to leave and forget about this kind of things once they have the software installed.
     
  17. Howard Kaikow

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    THeir claim makes no sense.
    Without signatures, there cannot be reliable detection of malware, just lots of false positives, and many missed malwares.
     
  18. ErikAlbert

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    Nevertheless, I saw ViGUARD in member's signatures at Wilders.
     
  19. Howard Kaikow

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    The term "signatures" refers to virus definition signatures when discussing AV software.
     
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