What happened to ShadowVPN?

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by scrty001, Jun 30, 2009.

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  1. oldymin

    oldymin Registered Member

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    Now that is what i call desparate after trying to read the above. Panic is what i read in it. If you were honest and tried to run a real business instead of running it on the backs of many others people would put some trust in you. But your whole idea of doing business and at the same time trying to gain trust is one big illusion. You're the quick buck type, selling marketing and trying to be a brand built on hot air.
     
  2. scrty001

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    I should be the one more upset than some of you. I don't really understand why you guys seem to attack this person over his involvement in Xerobank and try to make it out to some conspiracy.

    Whenever he speaks, he speaks technically and it sounds like he knows what he's talking about. Whenever most of you talk against him, you sound like you're just making claims.

    If there's another service you think that is as good or better than Xerobank, I would like to know what it is.

    I don't know of many VPN services/corporations that base themselves out of Panama City or have a multi-hop system setup. I don't see why else they would do this if they weren't serious about what they are doing.

    I'm not the type of person to put all my eggs in one basket or blindly trust anybody for no reason unless I see facts. I listen to people who seem educated and not some website that I go to that says.. "alert! alert! your IP address is known.. hide your IP!" etc..etc..

    This is the only person that I know of that speaks out as much about anonymity and privacy on the internet that I have found. I've learned quite a bit from him and more than I have ever known about how proxies and VPN's work etc.. I never even knew what a 'multi-hop' was, or anything like that.

    The truth is there is a much bigger world out there than this forum. I think some of you look too far into things and this particular forum to realize there is a real world out there. Many of you seem to say he uses this forum for his marketing purposes. I would hope for the benefit of their own business that they would be concentrating on a bigger target audience than just this forum.

    Everything I found he says to be educational, I don't see how anybody can argue that. Nobody seems to dispute any of his technical explanations. Everybody is quick to point figures and claim conspiracy before doing any real research on the actual topic at hand anonymity and privacy on the internet.

    At least with his knowledge he's trying to help people the right way. Or with what he knows, he could be doing much worst if he wanted.
     
  3. LockBox

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    Come on and admit it Steve, you are from outer space and we all need decoder rings to read your posts correctly to figure out what you're really trying to say. I bet some here think you commute to work in a black helicopter as well. :rolleyes:
     
  4. geazer40

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    the point is the op could not get reply to his probs with shadowvpn so lost out on there service steve/xerobank says dont tell me it is not my prob but allready shown on here steve/xerobank is shadowvpn
     
  5. caspian

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    I agree completely, Gerard. This is clearly a sign of the 'End Times'.:doubt: Much like locusts, wars, and rumors of wars etc...
     
  6. SteveTX

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    Scrty001, etc don't worry about them. They are really the same person using multiple usernames on wilders. The person behind oldymin etc is really Adem aka "Adminus" from the failed Privacy.li/trilightzone/etc group, that is why their method of operation is always the same.


    The reason "they" are so angry is because Adem has some sort of disagreement with Metropipe, and thinks MP and XB are related (haha) because they once had the same server management group running their exit nodes. He attacks here with disinformation under multiple usernames because he can't win on the facts, and his argumentation method is by deductive paranoia, but because he is paranoid he can't see that all his posts look the same even if he changes the way he makes his alias speak.
     
  7. caspian

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    If you use a VPN or service that is based in the US or UK, you may be better off just going through your ISP. Unless you are encrypted going through it.
     
  8. caspian

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    I bet he is the same guy that was attacking torrentfreedom on a message board....accusing the owner of bestiality and stuff. It was brutal. Very bizarre.
     
  9. SteveTX

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    If I remember correctly, that is what Adminus has done before. When one of his customers spoke out against him, he started saying the same sort of things, and this is what led his own users to believe he was monitoring their activities. Kind of sad all around.
     
  10. geazer40

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    well i aint anyone else on here but myself but again this is going off topic i ask the mods of wilders to look into this for the op and anyone else who is new to wilders because from the posts it clearly shows steve/xerobank is shadow vpn

    this will in turn end this tread and the mods findings will be final as to weather steve/xerobank was shadow vpn
     
  11. snowdrift

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    Steve, I still love you, if it's any count. "True Faith" here... :argh:
     
  12. oldymin

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    Same here :) It's actually hilarious that steve turns so paranoid instead of simply answering all the questions. As predicted he turned saying now we're competition or some bad ghosts from the past.

    Steve: wake up dude, whoever that guy is it's still not going to distract us from the truth about you.

    Could you also explain why you work for the government and yet at the same time pretend to protect the normal guy from the same government(s) ?

    https://xerobank.com/government-intelligence/
     
  13. markoman

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    Here are some facts about privacy.li and Adminus.
     
  14. geazer40

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    ye i think in one of my posts i also questioned that i think that it would be hard to achieve both just my opinium

    but in saying that caspian aka 007 might be the one running the goverment side of things because he always pops up on these threads with steve
     
  15. BlueZannetti

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    To all,

    This thread has a topic and it's not the "random musings of a paranoid nature" that keep popping up.

    Secondly, what you're requesting above is that we perform the due diligence that should be rightfully borne by any consumer out there making a purchase or arranging for a service. This simply is not going to happen.

    With respect to the direction of this thread - folks, get a grip.

    There is cetainly a relationship between Xero Networks AG/Xerobank/ShadowVPN. What does that mean? To be perfectly candid, I don't know, nor do I really care. It could be anything from segmented branding under a common corporate umbrella to distinct entities under a common holding organization to distinct corporate entities with some level of contractural connection, or a whole lot of something else in between any of those just mentioned. Whatever it is, that detail really isn't a concern of this site.

    Finally, this thread is closed. If you wish to have productive discussions on this topic in the future, stay on topic and leave the side issue paranoia at home. Later.

    Blue
     
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