What AV does the experts here use?

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Toulmin, Aug 10, 2005.

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  1. Pieter_Arntz

    Pieter_Arntz Spyware Veteran

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    I resent the use of the words BulletProof and AV in one post.

    Sorry, couldn't stop that from coming out. :D
     
  2. Starrob

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    I found this part interesting:


    "Intelligent, real-time,Bulletproof your password, credit card infomation and sensitive material infomation. even the newest spywares, trojans or unknown variations of them from FBI or CIA can steal nothing from your computer."

    The only thing about that program is that appears to be more like what people call a "HIPS" and not a AV.

    Has anyone used this product before?



    Starrob



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    edited to remove quote of post by a spammer whose post has been removed - Detox
     
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  3. Starrob

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    Can you tell me what Iswift is supposed to be?



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  4. richrf

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    Hi Mele20,

    Without straying too much off track ....

    While using various security products, I have noticed a marked difference in the competency in which various "features" are programmed into different software products.

    Kaspersky's primary area of compentency, as far as I can tell, is in opening, scanning, and detecting malware, with a giant and highly comprehensive database. I have yet to see Kaspersky show engineering competency in other areas, so it remains to be seen whether they have expertise outside of their primary area of competency. For this reason, KIS 2006, may not turn out to be a stable, efficient, and competent product in areas outside of KAV's primary area of experience. It remains to be seen.

    ProcessGuard and RegDefend (as examples) have proven to be highly resilient, flexible, and configurable in their areas of competency which leaves them in a strong position vis-a-vie other products. I am quite certain, that these characteristics are part of the reason that users, despite the desire for an all inclusive product, continue to explore multi-vendor approaches. ZoneAlarm 6, for example, also has anti-executable protection, yet it does not appear to have the flexibility of PG at this point. It probably will change over time.

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  5. richrf

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    Iswift replaces the old Istreams (ADS) technology. My guess is that it is using external tables/databases to confirm whether or not a file as been previously scanned, checksum on that file, and date that is was scanned. This is used to boost scanning performance. For a reasonably complete list of KIS 2006 new features:

    http://www.lostcoders.net/index-single-1618.htm
     
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  6. Starrob

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    Thanks......


     
  7. controler

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    richrf

    Well said Mele20

    I would suggest a peek at KAV's new beta suite. I have been and it is nothing like they have done before. EVen their firewall seems to be alot better.


    controler
     
  8. YeOldeStonecat

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    That's your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it. As is mine.
     
  9. Ailric

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    "You know, no offense"
    "aggressive KAV Evangelists"
    "evangelism" and "preaching" of KAV
    "I don't want your KAV Religion and Excessive Preaching"

    Offense was the intent of the post but I don't go about my life looking to be offended. No big deal.
    I am not a Kaspersky reseller or am in any way connected to Kaspersky.

    Looking back at my posts you can see me "preach" about NOD32 and McAfee. I don't work for them either.
     
  10. izi

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    I use:

    • at work KAV 5.0.205 for Windows Workstation
    • laptop F-secure 5.4x
    • at home NOD32 2.50.25 or KAV
    Regards,

    izi
     
  11. Dude

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    I took my old computer and took all the protections off it, and surfed high risk porn sites.

    Then my plan was to load different programs on there and see what programs found what.

    Anyway, that computer was so infected, it does not work anymore. So I could not do the tests.

    What does this have to do with this thread? I'm not sure.

    Where am I anyway?
     
  12. Paranoid2000

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    You're not on a porn site - time to update your malware! :D
     
  13. mnosteele

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    Nobody ever said that or is "pushing" a product, a question was asked and a question was answered, period.

    Then don't read thread after thread if you feel it's "pushed down your throat". And yes I am a KAV reseller, did you ever stop to think why? It's because I have used every antivirus program out there and I whole heartedly believe KAV is the best, I could have become a reseller for any product I wanted but I only support what I believe in and KAV makes my job easy my eradicating most all malware. I have nothing to economically gain from recommending a product I believe in, the people in this forum are not my clients and aren't going to purchase KAV from me. I tell all of my clients that I don't care who they purchase KAV from, just purchase it so that they have the best protection.

    Just because you personally have not been infected with any malware using Norton doesn't mean a thing. I have installed KAV for over 50 clients in the past 6 months to a year most all of which were using Norton 2004, 2005 or McAfee (because they become preinstalled on most all OEM pcs) that were terribly infested with viruses and other malware that Norton or McAfee never detected and KAV detected and removed. Many of these computers were so badly infected that they would barely boot up, since I have installed KAV with the settings I recommend (set and forget, no user interaction) not a single one of these clients has been infected with a virus or other malware.

    :) ;)
     
  14. Blackspear

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    Ladies and Gentlemen, act in such a way or this thread will be closed, enough of the shots over the bow.

    Blackspear.
     
  15. The Hammer

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    Yes! That describes me except for the age. This guy gets it. These alerts are often written in geek and the average guy is having enough trouble with their native language. I looked at screenshots for PG or was it Regdefend. Anyway one screenshot was of an alert and I looked at it and said huh. Coming from Norton to NOD I was dumfounded by all the settings and options. Multiple profiles what the heck is that all about I wondered. It took me about a week to get my head around NOD. That was before I found the Wilder's site. I still use NOD and understand it better now and will stay with it at least until version 3 and the promised new interface. Somebody on Wilder's has" Simplicity is Brilliant" in their signature and boy is he right. I prefer "KISS" Keep it simple stupid.
     
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  16. mnosteele

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    Exactly Hammer, most users, even users who are computer literate are dumbfounded by these alerts. That is why my suggested settings for KAV simply delete or quarantine any suspicious files without ANY user intervention. The only way they know what it's detected is by opening KAV's log, I set it to update every 3 hours and do a full system scan nightly at the highest settings.

    My clients are amazed when I show then KAV's log at what it has removed.... and they never knew it. The vast majority of pc users don't want to have to worry about updates or any type or user intervention, they just want to be able to use their pc when they need to and have it work properly.

    :D :)
     
  17. bigc73542

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    if you want to see what can happen setting it to delete without user intervention look here setting it to just delete without intervention is like a blind bull in a china shop. It is just a castrophy waiting to happen. :doubt:
     
  18. The Hammer

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    That has not been widely reported as a problem. Even with intervention Stuff happens. I"m sure more KAV users with the same version as you will weigh in with expressions of disbelief on that thread. I have been monitoring KAV postings closely on Wilder's as I may move to it or BitDefender if I don't like NOD's version 3 interface.
     
  19. bigc73542

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    But identifying system files as malware shouldn't ever happen.
     
  20. The Hammer

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    Your right. But pick almost any AV (insert name here) and there is a horror story by some poor smuck who got ambushed by their AV as if they were a innocent victim of a drive by shooting.
     
  21. bigc73542

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    You are right, there are some dandy horror stories about almost all program out there. but out of the hundreds of times I had different av's installed on this computer only Kav has ever done anything like this. no other av has even come close to this. It made a believer out of me.
     
  22. The Hammer

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    Thats an Idea for a thread. It could be called Name your AV from Hell.
     
  23. The Hammer

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    KAV 6 will do the dance of the seven veils and you'll be tempted to try her again
     
  24. bigc73542

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    I tried the beta and didn't like it. I will just stay with what I have, it has never given me any problems and nothing has ever gotten by it when I was useing it in many years.
     
  25. The Hammer

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    I hope that what happened to BigC never happens to anyone no matter what AV they use. mnosteele what version are you currently installing for clients?
     
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