We're moving shortly!!! - Actually we're there now!!

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  1. LowWaterMark

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    Wilders Security Forums will be moving to a different Web Hosting company in a couple hours or so. That means there will be a downtime (about 4 hours long) to transfer the forum data and when we open back up, we'll be at a different IP address. However, as soon as DNS updates around the world, the normal wilderssecurity.com domain name will direct you to the new server. All posts, users and other data in the forum will be current up to the moment we close the forum to start the move.

    For those who want to read about the hosting company we're going to, it's Application X.

    During the move, there will be a closed message on the current (old) forum and a placeholder page on the new server to let you know you've arrived at the right place. Once the new forum opens, the old one will have a single page letting you know you are in the wrong place, and listing the IP address of the new server. (If you are a Hosts file user, and have at some point added the IP address of wilderssecurity.com in there, you will need to update it to the new address, which we'll make available shortly.)


    So, pack up your stuff and climb on to one of the sleds and join us as we move. Mush Pixel, mush!


    [goright]|:mad: :gack: o_O :shifty: :blink: :doubt: :p :eek: :rolleyes: :D :) |-----*puppy* [/goright]
     
  2. Triple Helix

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    Re: WE'RE MOVING SHORTLY!!!

    Great to here!!

    Cheers,
     
  3. WSFuser

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    Re: WE'RE MOVING SHORTLY!!!

    oooOOOooo, an update! cant wait.
     
  4. betauser2

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    Re: WE'RE MOVING SHORTLY!!!

    WILL THERE BE ANY CHANGE IN BOARD STYLES TO COMPLEMENT THE MOVE?

    betauser2
     
  5. LowWaterMark

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    No, no changes are being made to content or style at all. In fact, that is deliberate. Since we want to ensure that the move is successful, we're not making any other changes at the same time that could complicate trouble diagnosis or resolution.
     
  6. Cochise

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    Re: WE'RE MOVING SHORTLY!!!

    OOOOOOOHHH!......I'm frightened....will we be alright??.......


    Cochise,:cool: Wandering in Wonderland.......
     
  7. LowWaterMark

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    And we have arrived!! :D *puppy*
     
  8. ronjor

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    Ahead of schedule. :D
     
  9. BlueZannetti

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    Re: WE'RE MOVING SHORTLY!!!

    On time no less.

    Only thing I noticed was that I had to log in again to post the message (hit reply button> get another login screen > now I'm here).

    Jim
     
  10. LowWaterMark

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    Everyone may need to do a browser cycle... clearing cache & cookies, exiting browser fully, restarting browser and return. I've noticed my client programs seem to get mixed up when the IP address changes while they're open. My email client had to be exited and restarted before it would try come to the new server rather than still trying to hit the old one. Many flaky things may happen until everything is cycled on people's PCs and DNS stablizes.
     
  11. bigc73542

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    :thumb: :thumb: working great ;) :D
     
  12. snapdragin

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    Wonderful work, Mike! :thumb: Like, Blue, all I had to do was re-log back in. :D

    *puppy* <-- bet he's tired from dragging us back and forth on that sled. :D
     
  13. Zhen-Xjell

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    Welcome to heaven Wilders.
     
  14. WSFuser

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    everything's smooth as silk here :)
     
  15. nicM

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    Congratulations, the move is working great! :D

    I didn't even have to clear cache, I was logged as soon as I came back :eek:


    Cheers,
    nicM
     
  16. dallen

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    I must be stupid. The only way that I can get to this forum since the move is to input the 65.175.38.194 IP into my browser. Everytime I put in URLs www.wilderssecurity.com or wilderssecurity.com I end up getting the notification page. I use Spywareblaster, Spybot Search & Destroy, SpySweeper and ZA Security Suite. I've tried disabling all of them and cleaning my cache, temporary internet files and history. I checked my host file and am unable to find anything related to Wilders. What am I missing? Oh, I would like to avoid having to insert any entry into the host file, if that's possible. If not, please educate me as to why this is necessary.
     
  17. LowWaterMark

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    DNS at your ISP is probably not updated yet. While we did have a low time to live set well before the move, there are always ISPs and hosting companies that have DNS cached longer. It can actually take a few days for DNS to be fully propagated.

    In the meantime, you will have a lot of trouble using all the forum features if you browse to the IP address itself. Cookie functionality is not supported fully when browsing the IP on a vBulletin forum. Even though you don't want to use it, the hosts file is really the only way to go. These two lines near the top of your hosts file will allow you to browse by the proper domain name:

     
  18. dog [away]

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    Nice Job Mike :)

    But I think we lost P-I-X-E-L I haven't seen him around. :p
     
  19. wildman

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    o_O So what changed? It still looks the same to me, and my Favorites thingy get me right here. Hay just because I am moving doesn't mean ya has got to move also.

    Thanks
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  20. LowWaterMark

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    He's resting at his country house after pulling all those sleds! :p

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    Just our address. :shifty:
     
  21. Longboard

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    I will try and phrase this so you, the mods/admins can understandit and help me!

    When I go back to some of the old threads I have bookmarked for specific interest and the links in those threads, I get taken to the "notification of moving page" from the bookmarks and the links.

    I read the instructions on the moving page and I'm not sure I understand.
    Can you make it even simpler/ :oops:

    Like: how to add to hosts file? (ithought the hosts file was to stop me going to malicious sites?0

    If I add the old Wilders addresses/links to my hosts file, will all the old threads/links within the old posts work?

    Hope dis is clearer dan mud :doubt:
    Remember to whom you are addressing this reply:

    Dopy downunder :blink:
    Thanks

    Longboard
     
  22. LowWaterMark

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    If you are ending up at the notification of move page, then either the DNS for your ISP has not yet updated, (not to worry, that is only a matter of time before it resolves itself, if that is the case), or you actually have a hosts or proxy server reference to the old IP address of wilderssecurity.com, (if that is the case, that must be fixed).

    More likely than not, it's your ISP DNS. But, editing your hosts file is not that difficult, so you could try to do that. (Interestingly enough, the real purpose of a hosts file is not the blocking of bad sites, although people use it for that more now than the real purpose. The real purpose was to map names to real IP addresses, not 127.0.0.1)

    Assuming you have Windows XP, the hosts file is located here:

    c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

    You can open that file with Notepad and simple paste these lines into it and save it:

    That will ensure that when you browse to wilderssecurity.com that you end up here.

    But, do not attempt to browse the forum by using the IP address itself. While you'll be able to do some things, many parts of the forum won't work right doing it that way.
     
  23. MikeBCda

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    I'm like nicM, already logged in when I got here today (via Bookmarks). Guess my ISP does a good job of DNS updating/refreshing/whatever frequently.

    (Edit, update a while later) Hmm, I did run into that notice (but still showing as logged in) when I tried posting over in 10-F a few minutes ago, so did that hosts-file addition you recommended and carried on from there. Oddly, no problem posting here before that.
     
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  24. Hard Rocker

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    :D Same here Mike !!
     
  25. LowWaterMark

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    DNS can be a tricky thing. You can be browsing along just fine and suddenly end up back on the old server. This can continue until DNS around the world fully catches up with the change.

    Two things to remember:

    1. Do NOT try to browse to the IP address itself like this:

    http://65.175.38.194/index.php

    You will defintely have problems accessing the site, staying logged in and posting. You must browse to the name:

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/index.php

    2. If needed, adding the two lines noted to your hosts file will ensure that your PC is mapping properly, all the time, to this server for this site name. (These lines should not be necessary after DNS has fully caught up everywhere in a few days.)

    65.175.38.194 wilderssecurity.com
    65.175.38.194 www.wilderssecurity.com
     
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