We can safely conclude FD-ISR is over?

Discussion in 'FirstDefense-ISR Forum' started by EASTER, Dec 7, 2007.

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  1. dallen

    dallen Registered Member

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    Sorry to be late to the game. I just came across this thread and am a bit shocked at what it reports.

    That being said, I quoted the above posting in its entirety because I want to publicly compliment EASTER for what in my opinion is nothing short of masterful poetic articulation. I am truly and sincerely impressed with the manner in which you crafted your words.
     
  2. Acadia

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  3. Peter2150

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    Again, I would point, out that this is purely Easter's opinion, without any basis in fact. For all we know, HDS was required to do that to get the distributorship. Does anyone seriously believe Leapfrog would have allowed this if the workstation version of FDISR was a viable product in the market place.

    Fact is we don't know, and to continue making statements like this borders on slander.

    Pete
     
  4. silver0066

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    Pete,

    With all due respect, you are beginning to sound like a "HDS Fanboy".

    The fact remains that HDS is making many mistakes by not listening to their customers. They have crippled First Defense and they refuse to acknowledge the crash issues with RollbackRx. After over a year of promises they have not fixed the uninstall/install issue with RollbackRx in order to defrag your hard drive and the fact that you have beg them for a new license when you uninstall.

    You are a great help to many in these forums. Please don't lose your credibility by these slanted posts.

    Do you have any substantiated facts regarding your statement that "For all we know, HDS was required to do that to get the distributorship"?

    Silver
     
  5. Peter2150

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    Silver, I am no HDS fanboy. Fact is I don't use Rollback, for some of the very reasons you stated. BUT, on FDISR, we simply don't know what happened. If you are going to post that HDS crippled FDISR to help Rollback, then also post the proof. In the last statement I made, of course I have no proof. But it could be just as true. We simply don't know. So making damning statements about that issue is simply an opinion, which anyone is entitled to have. But posting it could be considered slanderous.

    I counter those statement, so a new reader, realizes, that is isn't fact, as implied in some posts, but just someone's opinion, and will continue to do so.

    Pete
     
  6. silver0066

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    Pete,

    I did not post that HDS crippled FDISR to help Rollback. I simply stated that they crippled FDISR. I did not imply or state my opinion on their reasons because I do not know them.

    Please do not take my post personally. I just think that other users should be warned about the problems they might incur if they purchase RollbackRx or, for that matter, any HDS product. The crashes happen intermittently and in my case, occurred after the trial period, so I was out the money for three licenses...which of course, I am unhappy with.

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  7. Peter2150

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    Nothing personal. Have you tested 8.1
     
  8. Mr. Y

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    I went to that link and if you look carefully by paging up, you will see that FD-ISR is listed as a retired product.
     
  9. Mr. Y

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    I contacted Raxco and they no longer distribute it- period!!! (including activation keys)

    They recommended that I contact Leapfrog Software directly.
     
  10. ErikAlbert

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    Today, I received my full installation file of the real FDISR from Raxco, which replaces my two installation files of the latest version. My main concern was winVISTA, not winXP.
    If this version is compatible with winVISTA, I can use FDISR another 5 years, when I buy my next computer, if not, so be it. Nothing lasts forever.

    My first anger is over and alot can happen in 5-10 years.
    Right now, I don't see RollbackRx as a replacement and it will take alot of time to verify if RollbackRx really does what I can do with FDISR. My experience is that, the "same" is never the "same", once you know all the details.
    The Image backup/restore of RBRx-snapshots is also a concern and although it has been solved, I still don't like the solution, if I compare it with ShadowProtect & FDISR.

    Unfortunately, the software industry seems to be more interested in developping SIMPLE ISR-softwares like DeepFreeze, Returnil, PowerShadow, ShadowDefender, ShadowUser, Baseline Shield, FDISR Rescue, ... instead of developping multiple snapshot softwares, like RBRx and the questionable BackOnTrack Suite.

    I keep on using the real FDISR, as long as possible, until I find an equal or better solution. I've spent too much time on FDISR and I'm still polishing it.
    I never had a cleaner system partition than I have at this moment and I like to keep it that way. My data partition is now priority #1, after C comes D. :)
     
  11. silver0066

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    Yes, however, only until it's first crash. Then I took it off the system and I will stick with the uncrippled FDISR from Raxco.
     
  12. Peter2150

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    Well I'd for sure be hard pressed to argue with that decision.:D
     
  13. EASTER

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    I for one deliberated avoided any semblance of so-called slander (dunno how or why that was raised), but simply stated pure unadulterated facts as well as very deserving compliments in that Leapfrog presented the IT/User Windows world with one if not "THE" single-most best ISR ever before experienced and unmatched since, plus is a huge credit to their team's developmental intelligence/talents. It's by far and away the most advanced ISR ever crafted of it's kind and in it's authentic original form still remains the same to this very day and beyond!

    It really doesn't matter now the why or even the who, how it's turned out, even though that's very public knowledge, or disappointing as it's turned out to be, but still being very grateful even in the face of such demise honors the legacy Leapfrog deserves by even introducing this ISR in the first place.
    IMO everyone who is been as fortunate as i to have benefitted from this ISR in it's brief but very exciting run of it should keep that as first and foremost in their thoughts.

    It was not it's distributors who designed it after all. :)
     
  14. farmerlee

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    Yes, fd-isr as we know it is gone :(. I've just been trying out the new fd-isr rescue and its very disappointing. I can only hope some other software company is able to fill the void.
     
  15. Mr. Y

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    The Rollback Rx Pro 8.1 literature looks impressive- up to 60,000 snapshots that takes up a total of 0.1% of your Hard Drive space.

    I'm going to try it out!

    Is FD-ISR is an obsolete product?
     
  16. Longboard

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    LOL, No. Not 'obsolete'
    Just devolved from what it was.
    Reduced options.
    Unusual path for a software tool to take :cautious:
    Current version from HDS is much reduced in functionality from original release.
    Original version is now abandonware.

    The owners of the last full version plan on keeping it for a while me thinks. ;)

    The full functionality of the original release is available in the "FDISR Server" Edition from HDS but $$$ many more.
    Could be still worth it.
     
  17. Peter2150

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    Just remember those numbers don't include data, just the snapshot tables.
     
  18. ErikAlbert

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    ROFLMAO @ Is FD-ISR is an obsolete product? :D :D :D
     
  19. Huupi

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    I suppose that with Software Pursuits version as an obsolete product the activationkey is no needed anymore,i can't think off that they maintain something like an online or else check to verify at time i reinstall it.Have asked it,but no reply.
     
  20. TonyW

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    It sure sounds impressive, but in reality, you'd never need that many snapshots. In fact, when I tested it I only had two snapshots running in addition to the baseline.
     
  21. ErikAlbert

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    If you are 18 and you create 2 snapshots every day, you have 59,860 snapshots at the age of 100.
     
  22. Chuck57

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    I downloaded software Pursuits version, called BootBack. It says on their page that they will support it until Oct 2008 and the download is a 30 day trial.

    Bootback is FD-ISR. When I tried to install, it wouldn't. It told me that I already had a version on my computer. I have Raxco's FD-ISR version, not BootBack. So, I don't know if it will run beyond the 30 days or not, since I'm not going to remove the one I have to check it.

    As for being obsolete software, maybe in 5 yrs or so. As I see it, as long as I have an XP CD, or even if I have to move up to VISTA (Heaven Forbid) in a few years, the Build 205 is Vista compatible. I figure it's good for at least 5 yrs.
     
  23. Mr. Y

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    Apparently Bootback (aka FDISR) is no longer being offered by HDS or SPursuits.
     
  24. Peter2150

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    That is correct. FDISR as we know and love it, is flat no longer available. If you already have it enjoy. Otherwise, I am afraid you are out of luck.
     
  25. Huupi

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    Hello, From build 202 and up they are vista compatible,my last copy i bought 1,5 month ago from Software Pursuits was build 202,the helpfile says that it is vista compatible.....,if i ever make it to vista,i don't know yet,but good to know...just in case !

    It is my understanding that they already stop selling the stuff,only support will be active until aug. 2008 !?!?
     
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