Vunerable with UAC/DEP/ASLR/EMET/AV/FW

Discussion in 'malware problems & news' started by CloneRanger, Jun 16, 2012.

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  1. Hungry Man

    Hungry Man Registered Member

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    SPP, IE Chrome and Firefox all disable out of date Java (though I only know Chrome does this) but that's irrelevant because:
    1) Java updates are far apart with exploits splattered between
    2) 0-days for Java are common and the program is incredibly exploitable given the nature of JIT and the nature of Oracle being a ****-tier company.

    And, of course, the simple fact that while this example uses Java there are Silverlight, Flash, and browsers exploits aplenty.
     
  2. guest

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    I didn't know Chrome disabled out of date Java like IE and Firefox. In fact I didn't know Chrome supported Java. :argh: Last time I used the horrible JRE was more than a year ago.

    I know, I know, there are several runtimes and apps that can be exploited, there are 0-days, etc. But that would be a expanded discussion, besides the point of the linked article by the OP.
     
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    But maybe the generic and alarmist thread's title is inviting such discussion anyway. lol
     
  4. Baserk

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    Sure, but often those restrictions don't restrict web-based malware.
    Like recently in NL when a Sinowal sample wreaked havoc around 12:00 lunchtime when the CMS of the most popular dutch news site was hacked.
    'it redirected systems specifically with Windows Vista/7/8 to a separate location in the Nuclear Pack exploit kit. ...combined with how effective the exploit for java typically is, with around one in eight visitors being infected, a little over 12%, led us to believe this was a huge incident..'. link

    A steady 15% IE6/7 market share link shows a larger attack surface than '92% up-to-date' would suggest while the main attack vector remains outdated java etc.
    I agree on the title criticism. It's a bit like claiming a moat-fence-guards-dogs-locks burglary by befriending the victim and getting invited.
     
  5. guest

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    "92% up-to-date" is a different claim from "92% of Windows' userbase with Microsoft/Windows Update set to automatic install". Until recently, IE 8 and 9 weren't being automatically installed (they were being automatically offered - many refused them). But IE 6 and 7 are going to be supported until Windows XP and Windows Vista reach end-of-life respectively - which means the update I was talking about works for IE 6 and 7 as well (the Microsoft Killbit update, which blocks vulnerable plugins in IE - including vulnerable versions of JRE - and is really being automatically installed for those with Microsoft/Windows Update set to "automatic install").
     
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  6. treehouse786

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    reinforces my mindset of never allowing java on my systems.
     
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