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Discussion in 'privacy general' started by Rico, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. Rico

    Rico Registered Member

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    I use Bitdefender Total, which has free VPN to 200mb/day. While still in the VPN I tried to use T-bird, to send an email.

    Fail secure connection could not be established. Was that the VPN or email fault (suddenlink.xxx)?

    Before closing Bitdefenders VPN, I ran Bleach Bit, it complained about network.

    I rebooted, VPN off, & email worked fine. Suddenlink's email has been very problematic, for long time.

    Also FF wants to provide VPN for $60 year, Bitdefender $40 year.

    With Bitdefender's VPN I notice no slowdown, on the net.

    Any reason for ordinary person to use VPN? Kinda seems not necessary
     
  2. n8chavez

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    I would not ever not be behind a VPN. That is to say, I will always be using one. ALWAYS. It's just safer not having to worried about attacks, tracking, etc.. Also. Firefox VPN uses Mullvad, one of the most reputable and privacy-conscious VPNs there is. Bitdefender, who knows. Never trust a VPN when the VPN is not the primary business.
     
  3. mirimir

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    I wouldn't expect VPN services per se to interfere with HTTPS connections. However, it's possible that Bitdefender's VPN does some mix of packet inspection, protocol filtering, and URL blocking. And that might interfere with HTTPS connections etc.

    Many use VPNs to protect against local attacks while using WiFi hotspots. Stuff like snoopy hotspot providers, improperly secured hotspots that let users exploit each other, and malicious fake hotspots. Others use VPNs for privacy while torrenting, streaming media, using Tor, plotting global domination, etc. Some access Tor through VPN services so that entry guards don 't see their ISP-assigned IP address. That helps to protect against malicious entry guards and/or deanonimization of Tor circuits.

    If you 1) don't care about privacy, 2) trust your ISP, 3) only work at home, and 4) don't use WiFi, you likely don't need to use VPNs.
     
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    :argh: You never fail to amuse me, @mirimir
     
  5. Rico

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    I did hear that VPN's can mess up streaming.

    Ok! The machines are at home & connected (including TV) via ethernet.. Bitdefender with 200mb free, would cover road trip.

    iPhones, iPads VPN's safe out in the world with no VPN?
     
  6. n8chavez

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    No. They are not re-read my last post. 200 mb is nothing. Directly put, ditch bit defender and and get a better and more reputable VPN, or don't use one.
     
  7. Rico

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    Okay I'm intrigued & some new questions: Mine is RT-AC68U

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    Would these installed on the router, cover the whole house & all devices using my router both ethernet/wifi?

    When I see 'unblocks NETFlIX' does that mean, I can enjoy it without paying?

    Firefox uses Mullvad, so would other browsers not be protected, on the same machine.
     

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    Would these installed on the router, cover the whole house & all devices using my router both ethernet/wifi?

    yes, all the connections from & to your router would be tunneled thru vpn.

    When I see 'unblocks NETFlIX' does that mean, I can enjoy it without paying?

    no, it doesn't. it means you can avoid geo-blocking and access restricted content via vpn connection.

    Firefox uses Mullvad, so would other browsers not be protected, on the same machine.

    yes, they would be protected.
     
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  10. Rico

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    Using router VPN Mullvad or Express VPN, would I need to install (to use) software for TV & SiriusXM streamed over ethernet. Same question for iDevices, getting connection from VPN'd router?

    Is it really necessary for iDevices VPN? If so 1 of five devices router, iDevices install app. At home covered by router. On the road with iDevices use app??
     
  11. Palancar

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    OP,

    Independent of my thoughts about your VPN, 200 mb/day is crazy limited. It is rare that I don't pull at least 1 Gig through my tunnels every single day. Many, many days I pull multiple Gig through several different server configurations. On a 500 meg line 200 meg/day would last me only a few minutes when I am "going at it" (moving/downloading files) LOL!
     
  12. Rico

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    Yes I understand 200mb/day is a teaser by BD, to purchase. It is fast, but email is not usable with it!

    I'll try ExpressVPN, if not happy Mulvad, payment seems awkward, or not necessary. Any other back up considerations, exclude post #7.

    Thanks Guys
     
  13. LoneWolf

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    I've had IVPN for a while now, works well for me.
    Not free but worth the price in my opinion.
     
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    Whenever I hear a phrase liking plotting global domination I immediately think of that great cartoon Pinky & the Brain.
     
  15. n8chavez

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    NARF!!
     
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    Has anyone here tried the Firefox VPN by chance?
     
  17. mirimir

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    Yep, that's what I was thinking :)

    I could also have mentioned plotting to evade global domination ;)
     
  18. n8chavez

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    I was thinking about it. I know that it's just a rebranded Mullvad, and that it only offers wireguard (no openvpn). Other than that I don't know of any differences.

    https://www.techradar.com/reviews/mozilla-vpn
     
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    I used PIA for years until it changed owners last year. The speeds have slowed down too much, and I constantly have to switch servers for a faster connect. I tried Nord and Steganos. Now I'm giving Surfshark a try.
     
  20. Rico

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    Hi Guys,
    I'm now on ExpressVPN, I added openVPN to my Asus AC68U router, one minor hiccup. Voip device did not like VPN, chose no VPN for it, all is well.

    What url can i test the vpn on?
     
  21. imdb

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    hey man, good call. can't go wrong with express. :thumb:
    what sort of test are you talking about? leak test or something?
     
  22. imdb

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    @Rico
    as for the voip issue, drop a mail to the support and they'll help you out with it.
     
  23. Rico

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    voip is fixed, via No VPn for device. leak!
     
  24. Palancar

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    Super basic starting point: https://dnsleaktest.com
    Do the full scan looking for basic leaks.
     
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