VPN recommendations wanted

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by Uitlander, Feb 5, 2018.

  1. Yuki2718

    Yuki2718 Registered Member

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    You mean Iceland? I also have heard that they're so, but not sure about Norway. Switzerland is controversial. On one hand, sure they're said to have strong privacy law so gag order or NSL is impossible. On the other hand, a people voted for more surveillance, and of course they have a treaty with US for data request, and ofc they're not outside of spying .
     
  2. Yuki2718

    Yuki2718 Registered Member

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    I have no experience with Nord, but I won't use that program unless at least it's open source.
     
  3. mirimir

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    Yeah, AUS, I should have known ;)
     
  4. Stefan Froberg

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    Yeah, sorry Iceland. I particularly like this story where they jailed 29 real criminals :D

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/stefan-simanowitz/iceland-has-jailed-29-bankers_b_8908536.html

    So they have right attitude and don't bow to money.
    I stumped to this today and Norway seems to be a-okay:
    https://privacypolicies.com/blog/privacy-law-by-country/
     
  5. mirimir

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    Well, Iceland is an island. And in Icelandic, it's called Ísland. So hey ;)
     
  6. The Radius Kid

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    The first install of the app'was from the Play Store.
    After the garbage started, I uninstalled and cleaned up the leftovers from Nord's client.
    The second time around was installed directly by download from Nord's website.
    The PC was done both times directly from Nord's websute as well.
    The phone is rooted so when I want something gone, I go dig it out and get rid of it.
    The laptop install was done right after the phone install and that's when it complained about the out of date NVidea drivers.
    Since the "experience utility" was gutted, I'm guessing that's why it complained about out of date video card drivers.
    Why the video card drivers need to even be installed to make the Nord program run right on my PC is beyond me.
    That's the one burning question.
    As to the phone, my apps all run without the Play Store app' running in the background.
    Why Nord's is demanding it, I don't know.
     
  7. roger_m

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    @The Radius Kid I still need more detail. If you installed Nord using it's own installer (apk file), how is the Play Store involved?

    What was the exact message you got about updating your video drivers? Even if it suggested you update to more recent drivers, you do not need to use GeForce Experience to do this. So the message has nothing at all to do with you uninstall that, unless it specifically mentioned GeForce Experience.
     
  8. The Radius Kid

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    1. You tell me.
    I don't know and Nord wouldn't give me a straight answer.

    2. Why is Nord complaining about updating video card drivers in the first place?
    It shouldn't matter to them.
    It doesn't matter to any other program on my PC.
     
  9. roger_m

    roger_m Registered Member

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    You have not stated how Play Store is involved. So, unless you provide more information, I can't tell you, as I have absolutely no clue what s going on, as you have only given very vague information which tells me nothing.
    I've got know idea and it would help to know the exact message that Nord shows about video card drivers. But even without seeing that, unless Nord will only install or run if you update your video drivers, it is a non issue. If it is not required, you don't have to do it.
     
  10. Yuki2718

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    Hmm, tho the 1st link is not about privacy law, it seems they have good legal soil. Yup, Norway seems to be OK as long as the personal data protection by companies goes. But what the 2nd link covers is just one aspect of privacy, there're a lot more one have to take into account, you know. This really troubles me as I'm layman about law.
    You showed a tip of your erudition! I hope it won't give a clue to who mirimir is for sby. :D
     
  11. Uitlander

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    Thanks a lot for your tips! Wish I understood more of what you said, but I'm sure my tech guy will. If I'm guessing correctly, you said I can run either OpenVPN or IPsec through the router. I looked into Mikrotik support, and it looks like IPsec is okay, but not sure about "IKEv2 and Diffie–Hellman key exchange"...all I see is this:
    https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/IPsec#Diffie-Hellman_Groups
    https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manu...ior_setup_using_IKEv2_with_RSA_authentication
    If I'm guessing correctly, it appears only L2TP/IPsec is workable. So other than contacting each VPN and directly asking, is there any other way to determine if a VPN "uses IPsec with IKEv2 and Diffie–Hellman key exchange"? I do not recall seeing such details mentioned on any of the VPN sites.
     
  12. mirimir

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    Sorry, I'm no IPSec expert. But I believe that what I wrote is accurate. Hopefully your tech guy knows more. About VPNs, you gotta ask them.

    I'm pretty sure that you'd get an informative answer from IVPN support.
     
  13. kdcdq

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    Many many thanks to mirimir for his excellent short list of recommended VPNs. After trialing three of them, I chose IVPN and could NOT be happier with my choice! Expensive: Yes. Worth it: You BET!!
     
  14. Palancar

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    You will be happy with IVPN. They are in my top 3 as well. I can't actually call 1 or 2 or 3 because those three are just ALL good as can be! Believe me I know because there are pages of others that just don't measure up.
     
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